Decided to quit

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I decided to start playing WoW again after several years away.
I have only been playing for about two weeks.

The Dragon Isles is stunning in every aspect. I absolutely loved it. I enjoy the open world quests; mythic dungeons and raids.
I come from a generation of gamers that, when in group, everyone just did their best and worked together.
It seems to me, that this is no longer the case, in mythic dungeons (maybe raids too, I never got that far because it was way too discouraging) based on my experience of trying to learn how to play a fire mage. It also seems to me that it’s about internal competition within the group as to the highest and lowest dps. INCLUDING HEALERS.

As a fire mage with low dps because of the complexity of trying to learn the ‘proper rotation of skills’, I have been doing my due diligence to research and get the necessary addons to try and maximize my dps. Apparently it’s just not good enough.
I did not go higher than Mythic 10 just for reference. I spent most of my time playing in the low keys and only have done several 8+ Mythic dungeons. My ilvl was around 445.

I don’t know how many times I’ve been called out in the group for having low dps. Maybe 20% of my Mythic dungeon runs had someone commenting on my dps.
So, rather than have fun and just run the dungeon together and see what we can do, and heaven forbid, have a laugh or two, apparently it was about looking at a dps meter, and comparing.
Now I can understand the importance of dps when you are pushing keys to much higher levels
 but at low level keys? It’s not like the groups ever struggled. All the runs went fine, and even with my ‘low dps’, was I not at least contributing and trying?
And then to voice it, call me out and think that it’s going to go over well with me and want me to actually continue playing.

To compound this, of course I want my dps to be the best it could be, who wouldn’t? Maybe I was expected to know how to do this from the onset before even entering a dungeon, I don’t know. It’s not like I’m just standing there staring at my icons trying to figure out which one’s to press. I am paying attention to my cooldowns and my rotation as best as I can, but obviously not in a fluid manner due to the learning curve. I was putting in a solid effort.

I don’t know if it’s normal in WoW for players to have an ‘elitist attitude’ or not, but it’s just not for me. I thought coming back to WoW might be a good thing as I felt I had a lot to contribute to the community. But, based on the number of times I’ve been called out for my low dps, it’s just too discouraging. Maybe it takes years, or maybe it takes talent, or maybe it takes both. And apparently I don’t have any of the above. So be it.
Lol I even leveled up a Protection Paladin to learn how to tank, because we all know that every game out there could always use more tanks. I’ve been having a pretty awful time playing a DPS with the discouraging comments. I can’t imagine the experience of learning how to tank in mythic dungeons.

Keep in mind, the comments were not regarding whether I was learning the class and might need some advice
 it was just an observation of low dps and that observation voiced in a way that was not helpful or had good intentions.

I thought the community would be cool with new players and people trying to learn new classes and skillsets. For what it’s worth, I tried, it’s a beautiful game, but the attitudes of players I’ve been experiencing have only encouraged me to quit and uninstall the game.

Or maybe all the players doing mythic dungeons have mastered their characters. It is possible that I just don’t have what it takes to do Mythic dungeons in WoW. Ok, if that’s the case, then I am obviously making the right move to quit playing WoW, because I love running dungeons (in any MMO), and if I can’t then what’s the point in playing.

Let me be clear: I acknowledge that there are most likely a lot of cool players in WoW. Maybe I just had bad luck with encountering the wrong people. Either way, it’s left a bad taste in my mouth after only a couple of weeks.

As far as I’m concerned, WoW is the best MMO out there at the moment, and there is nothing else out there that I’m interested in playing. So if anything, I suppose I now have more time to spend on RL things. All good.

Sorry it didn’t work out WoW
 you’ve come a long way and I was super happy to come back. Not anymore. I’m out.

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No, please don’t go.

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First!..oh


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Unfortunately this does seem to be a prevalent thing. It’s why I run with my guild. Because we’re old, we don’t care about numbers, we will literally kick people out of the guild if they link numbers to shame someone. Of course, in the nearly two decades I’ve only had to do that once.

But still, my point is that guilds/friends are much better than pugs. I’m sorry it turned you off from the game. :slightly_frowning_face:

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There can be a number of snarky people in the game (points up 2 spaces and down 3) that are a waste of time to interact with. That’s why I skip the whole M+ scene.

I enjoy the remainder of the content while leaving said “people” out of my life. It’s a bit ironic that the first response came from one of the mouth breathers that you and I don’t want to associate with. Take care, and I hope you find a hobby that you can enjoy.

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its weird the same people that claim how classic is more freindly and helfull are same people who in retail expect you to be a pro and no everthing even for basic dungeons

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I wish Blizzard were as committed in this regard as the devs of other games are and would reprimand toxic players. Since there are no consequences to fear in WoW, some people feel they can behave extremely poorly.
Unfortunately, we can see this happening here in the forums as well, where entire groups of players are constantly insulted/mocked without anything happening. So yeah
 it is, what it is. :confused:

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That’s not a world anyone wants to live in

“Account suspended: You said another player had bad dps” lol

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From what the op wrote, it was probably more than just a friendly suggestion on how to improve the DPS. :wink:

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Stories like this leave me doubtful. I got a Hunter to 448ilvl and pugged my own key to timing a 16 ToTT this week (plus lots of others). My DPS sucks (getting better with gear, but need to read up on rotation) and no one has said a negative word to me.

But OP has experienced it a ton for the same reasons?

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It’s not what is said it is “How” it is said.

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They are. But not at high end content where time is a factor.

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Unfortunately you were doomed from the start. Fire is one of the worst ST specs in the game and in m+ it does literally nothing until 25+ keys

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Can I have your gold.

To be honest Fire Mage is very gear dependent and you have to time your combus windows with CD correctly or your dps suffers. Is not an easy spec to learn to play. I suggest trying a BM hunter easy rotation not as gear dependent and super easy to do good damage. Fire mage is one of the harder spec to learn.

Also ilvl 445 isn’t high at all. Heck my druid which is like my alt is above 450 just doing world quest and LFR and heroic dungeons. So you doing 8+ in M+ should have a much higher ilvl than 445.

Seems like is more of you issue than the game.

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I think it’s more so on how it’s presented.

Saying “hey your damage is low” vs “your damage is dog water and you’re garbage at the game” are different ways to go about it.

It’s like when I did normal the other evening.

Raid leader asks if anyone has done the fight or if anyone has questions. No one will ever say “yeah I don’t know what to do” simply because they’re afraid of saying something and getting kicked. Vs FF14 people will say something, and no one will chew their head off and instead give advice.

And I’ll be honest, normally when friends aren’t on and I do PUG runs it feels like 1 or 2 out of every 5 keys I do someone has to say something from the peanut gallery or negative, and the hilarity is it’s normally the player doing the worse or failing at mechanics.

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It seems chatGPT still needs refining


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Yes PuGs can be a pain. People are dumb and often like to find fault within others before themselves.

I’ve been lucky in playing a Monk and apparently performing rather well so I’ve been going fine, but am suffering from the ‘volunteer’ syndrome in that it feels like if you are even moderately good at tanking or healing that is the role you get a lot more.

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OP is playing a fire mage. They are much much more dependent on gear and the right secondary stats to make them good. If OP have bad secondary stat then the spec is trash. Is not an easy spec to play. If OP wants to play mage I suggest frost. Is less dependent on gear and the rotation is more forgiving.

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There’s a report function to address players in violation of the CoC.

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It’s up to the players to tell someone that is putting another down for their performance to either help them get better or shut up.

Pointing out the obvious doesn’t help. It’s a game, more people should speak up.

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