Deathstalkers Mark for Assassination

Classes Rogue
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Can we tie this to empowered garrotes from stealth instead of Ambush? It would be so much better.

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No, because we use empowered garrotes from stealth to spread dots. The whole thing is honestly just a mess without subterfuge being baseline for assassination.

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Ok
 and?

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Each time you garrote a new or previous target, you reset Deathstalkers Mark. That would be even worse.

Deathstalker just doesn’t play to the traditional multi target opener. Players will have to adapt to it or play something else. I’m ok with it because I don’t do M+ and in raids I don’t care about trash pulls.

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The “$@%! you I got mine” of rogue forums repsonses.

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I think you missed the point.

The biggest complaint about Deathstalker is not being able to open on multiple targets with Garrote. My point is, not every talent has to be optimal for all content. If M+ is your thing, then Dealthstalker probably won’t be your first choice.

Players will find a spec/build that suits them best for the content they enjoy and will adapt to it. That’s what we always do.

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Deathstalker is a talent tree


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and
 it probably won’t be your first choice if you’re in to M+. There is also Fatebound and Trickster to choose from. Though Trickster requires a different spec.

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It would have been the first choice for sin had they not been lazy when designing the tree. The marks themselves arent the issue. Its the tree as a whole.

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I honestly never open up from Stealth using anything except ambush. Them combo points are tasty (and I don’t use the talent to make Garrote give more combo points).

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I don’t see how that’s an issue, you’re not really going to start spending your Deathstalker’s Marks until after you’ve spread your garrotes anyways.

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Yeah this is bad game design. Deathstalker forces an ability into the rotation that doesn’t naturally fit there and actively interferes with Garrote and Rupture in multi target scenarios. It’s such a janky ability for being the core of an entire hero talent tree.

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You’d want to Ambush, Garrote, Rupture, Garrote, Garrote, Rupture. If you just spam garrotes on your aoe pulls you’re overcapping combo points twice just in the opener and wasting lots of free damage that would have been funneled into the priority target.

If garrote applied marks and you just garrote spam, all of the funnel damage is going to spread haphazardly until the subterfuge buff wore off and the mark finally settles and you start actually doing finishers. That would be abysmal.

Of course, this is with subterfuge, which I am told is bad. ¯_(ツ)_/¯