Death of Chromie Part 2, not Mage Tower 2

:nauseated_face:

Been recently data-mined there’s a new scenario in the game files called the “Grand Time Adventure” that takes us to an incursion from each of the four Old Gods (C’thun in Silithius, Yogg in Northrend, Y’sharj in Vale of Eternal Blossoms, and N’Zoth in Nyalthoa) which connect back to a central Bronze Dragonflight hub.

Ion Hazzikostas was interviewed saying we would get a “New Solo Content, Like Mage Tower”, and I and many others took this to mean Mage Tower 2, but I guess we got lawyered, and it is looking more like Death of Chromie Part 2. The “Like” apparently meaning just “Mage tower is solo content, and this is also solo content”.

I was really hoping we were about to get a new set of awesome solo raid bosses. This sort of Death of Chromie scenario as a one-size-fits-all adventure for every single class and spec in the game… yuck. Big yuckers. I’m salty.

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Link or hard to believe

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/w1zfyy/new_map_featuring_old_god_zones_stormwind_and/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Asmongold/comments/w1zm5e/new_alpha_map_grand_time_adventure_featuring_old/

I legit never even tried the chromie thing

I forgot it existed so fast

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Wep I liked part 1 so look forward to something like a part 2, but think we are being a little quick to judgment without seeing though.

If its part 2 that requires mastery of class and mechanics how isnt that the mage tower? Every class/spec didnt get their own specific mage tower. Every healer and tank had the same one

Man no one is ever happy. They could go back to ignoring this kind of stuff

/shrug

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Because nobody cares about grinding out rep inside of a mini-game to acquire :peach:-ugly mogs. Those Death of Chromie mogs look awful. Why would you care about that when Mage Tower existed during the same expansion pack? And why would they carry any prestige when it’s more of a grind rather than something properly skill-based like Mage Tower?

My only hope is that this “Grand Time Adventure” is intended as a supplement to, and not a replacement for, a Mage Tower 2. I’m taking a big hit of copium to say I’m still holding out hope maybe we still get Mage Tower 2. In the meanwhile, it looks like what we’re getting first is this yucky Chromie mini-game again.

How could it though? If it is anything like what they’ve done before, it’s a one-size-fits all design that won’t properly accommodate class features or challenge players in the roles they prefer.

Horrific Visions 2.0 :nauseated_face:
lol

Thematically I can see why they did it this way if true.

I doubt it’s like MT, they just like to use it as a buzzword to drum up interest.

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Yup.

You know Ion Hazzikostas name-dropped Mage Tower because he knew that it would get people hyped.

MAGE TOWER TWO. Oh man, my excitement was through the roof. I was getting so hyped up. To learn that instead we’re getting a Horrific Visions 2 or Death of Chromie 2 is just… no. In fact, it looks like Horrific Visions meets Death of Chromie, time travel meets old gods. The worst of both worlds.

Maybe we even have a sanity bar AND a timer to save Chromie? Haha.

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Why couldn’t it?

Version if q as tanks
Version if q as healers
Version if q as ranged
Version if q as melee

Or its just challenging for different classes for different reasons like visions were

Edit mage tower wasnt tuned amazing either. WW monk was stupid ez etc

I wouldn’t be surprised. They tend to mash two past ideas.
It’s how we got WORLD QUESTS 2.0 :nauseated_face:

I never quite connect with this content even though it’s made even for solo players like me. Hope it’s tolerable and fun for those that play it but I have my doubts.

They’ll make something great during testing then do 509230 changes that just ruins it.

Complaining about something we know literally nothing about. Never change, General Discussion.

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This is when you whine. When it’s on the PTR, game over, that’s pretty what you’re getting aside from gameplay tuning.

Or you just don’t do said content

Like you’d claim to do with torghast

Honestly blizzard should remove any cosmetic rewards after the expansion is over

Like all Torghast rewards be removed, it’s rewarded from challenges and being level 70 defeats that purpose. see how long people who claim “I hate Torghast” suddenly change their minds

If it gives a decent looking armor set then I’m cool with it.

I saw the new Chromie model, she looks cute.

I should do the Who Killed Chromie stuff now, while I have nothing to do…

seems a bit early to complain since we really know nothing about it. It still very well could be a boss rush scenario. Did they datamine another chromie time currency or rep? Tbh I can’t imagine them making another one without having to justify it since it was proto visions/torghast style to begin with and we know how those went in terms of popular opinion.

We don’t have much data on it yet, since it is a 10.1 patch feature and someone over there likely goofed up that we got such an early sneak peek.

Unfortunately, Blizzard is in the mindset “If its broke, keep trying to fix it until it works, then throw it out”. I can very easily see Blizzard justify the next iteration of this content with some grindy meta-progression element by saying “See, see, you guys should love this because it doesn’t have soul ash anymore”, not realizing they just spent a bunch of dev effort making content that isn’t what we want, which is Mage Tower 2.

That’s the scary part.

I’ve been asking for HD Tier 2 mogs for a while. I could see Blizzard going like, “Oh, hey, you guys wanted HD Tier 2? Let’s shove this into Death of Chromie Part 2”. And then making us grind Chromie rep 12 times because they only said cosmetics are account-wide, not power, and the power from the rep might be character-specific and then the mogs unlock only on the class. That’s the nightmare scenario.

I liked Deaths of Chromie more than I liked the Mage Tower.

The rewards might have been more appealing for Mage Tower, but Chromie was actually fun and felt like I was getting better as I did it more instead of beating my head into a brick wall.

Druids got an easy mode Kruul kill because they could stealth stun the first boss and his damage field would turn off. It was eventually fixed, but who knows if the Druid got that before or after the fix.

Aff lock had a pretty easy challenge as well with the permaslow legendary and infernal/mortal coil cheese.

I dunno, its early datamining that shows a scenario in alpha that might or might not even be in the style of the original chromie time which was sort of a single player m+ thing. Honestly everything you are saying is speculation erring toward a perceived worst possible scenario, but from what we actually know it doesn’t have to be that way.

All we apparently know is there is another chromie scenario and it has rooms for each of the 4 old gods. It could end up being jailer’s gauntlet part 2, it could be horrific visions part 2 free loot boogaloo, it could be the next iteration of torghast, it could be instanced brawlers guild, it could be bad, it could be good, but we don’t have details so I’m a bit against wild doom saying because of the name of the scenario.

After all when they brought back mage tower 2 in shadowlands it somehow was very different content from the legion ilvl challenge, to a bizarre extent considering its copy paste and tune content. If chromie time is the same it might somehow go from lukewarm do it once content to something weirdly good like the guantlet.

Oh, that might be super fun. The mage tower was massively popular.