Dear WoW Forums: This Isn’t Therapy, It’s Feedback

Alright lads and ladies, I’ve been around since we were all farming boars in Elwynn Forest, and I’ve seen this circus a few too many times. Every new expansion drops, everyone gets hyped, the forums start buzzing… then within two weeks it’s nothing but “Blizzard bad” and “game dead” spammed 400 times in slightly different fonts.

Now I get it. We all love a good whinge. But there’s a reason Blizzard tunes this stuff out. They can’t fix what they can’t read through the rage fog. So if you actually want the devs to pay attention instead of rolling their eyes, here’s how to write something that might actually make it onto a meeting whiteboard instead of into the recycle bin.

1. Start with what you like

No one’s saying you’ve gotta kiss Blizzard’s boots, but leading with a positive sets the tone. It tells them you’re not here just to swing punches.

Like: “The Midnight zone art is sick, feels moody and new, but the quest pacing feels a bit off.”

That’s balanced. They can use that.

2. Be specific

“Blizzard ruined my class” means nothing. You may as well yell it into a sock.

Instead say what’s actually wrong. Like “Survival Hunter feels clunky because we’re losing uptime during bomb cooldowns.” That’s something a dev can actually look at and tweak.

3. Explain why you care

Telling them “this sucks” is useless. Telling them “this makes me feel like my effort isn’t rewarded” hits different. It makes it human. You’re not just angry, you’re giving context.

4. Don’t call devs lazy

They’ve heard it a million times and stop reading the second they see it. Call the decision confusing, disappointing, whatever — just don’t make it personal. You want them to take you seriously, not put your post in the cringe folder.

5. Compare instead of complain

Say “I preferred Dragonflight’s crafting because it rewarded long-term effort” rather than “crafting sucks now.” You’re showing understanding, not tantrum energy.

6. Suggest something

If you’re gonna point out a problem, throw in a fix. Doesn’t have to be perfect. Even a half-baked idea gets the gears turning. Like “Would be cool if Delves rewarded a token you could trade for heroic gear upgrades.” That’s feedback with direction.

7. Watch your tone

Sarcasm doesn’t land the way you think it does online. You might think you’re being cheeky, but it usually reads like “angry bloke on a keyboard.” Keep it passionate but not rabid.

8. Treat it like a report, not a rant

You’re not yelling at the clouds, you’re trying to get the message up the chain. Write something they can actually discuss in a dev meeting. “Players feel overwhelmed by the number of currencies” is a note. “This system is garbage” is a bin fire.

9. Give credit where it’s due

If you only post when you’re cranky, you look like background noise. When something lands — new model, new mechanic, music, whatever — say it. Devs remember balanced posters. They read their stuff first.

10. Remember what they can and can’t act on

They can tweak numbers, pacing, mechanics. They can’t fix “this doesn’t feel like 2007 anymore.” Nostalgia’s not a bug.

At the end of the day we all want WoW to be good again. We want it to hit that magic balance of fun and challenge. Midnight’s got potential, but if every post turns into a meltdown, the people who actually want to help shape the game get drowned out.

So yeah, next time you wanna drop a rage post, take a breath, write like a grown-up who’s spent too many years farming raid mats, and give Blizzard something they can work with.

You’ll get a lot further with a calm sentence than a 300-word tantrum about “the death of WoW for the tenth time since Wrath.”

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“Give good feedback, as is logically sound”.

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“Don’t make every story about serving the egos of Alliance characters” is my feedback but there is no nice way to say it.

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Okay, so the foundation of the game has been :poop: on for too long. Too many restrictions are being uplifted, too much of the alliance being allowed in horde lands and cities. The story is a mess, and I am tired of people acting like any of this is even remotely acceptable. Velf paladins should never be happening, Silvermoon should have stayed exclusively horde. Why, and how did we even get here?

I want M+ and raiding to take a near permanent backseat, since these people don’t care about the above ^ then I don’t care about M+ and raiding existing, especially since their existence caused even half of the intiail thing I just stated at all. It will always be a problem, and it needs to be addressed.

Removing addons is stupid. I am not going to participate in the content where they were needed(regardless if some claim that they were apparently not needed). The community(based on the above ^ writing in my post) has already proven that nothing of value could exist in those forms of content, not even a tiny ounce. But that doesn’t mean we should remove addons, it’s not going to generate new players, and as I said, not going to cause anyone like me to suddenly or magically participate in things I already don’t want to be a part of.

There is no credit to give where it’s due. They can’t even do Housing without overmonetization because execs want yachts. Something I was excited for is now entirely pointless and disappointing after waiting for 2 entire decades. I will truly never praise them for a single thing.

No, I won’t be quitting. Nope, the gold isn’t available to even be asked for. I do not pay for my game time, expansions, or any shop related item with my own money. I stay because I want the game to improve, and posts like OPs silly social contract type nonsense doesn’t actually help improve the game.

What credit is due exactly? The games performance is fully tanked since DFs alpha, they delete all posts regarding this topic, by the way, and people gaslight, claiming 3080s are potatoes. Get out. And if that’s not a problem, the story 100% is a problem. Why should I praise them for Xals predictable betrayal, for all the predictability of Midnight(which is still an alliance biased focused story in horde lands, how insulting at that). Nobody can tell me to not be mad about these things and this is as calm as it will get, I’ve been calm enough.

Edit: Basically what OP wants is for me to shill out and not actually give feedback. Everything I said would be openly and actively dismissed anyway, especially by alliance players and anyone who does M+ and raiding(still don’t care about either of these groups, not even sorry about it either). I am sorry OP but sticking fingers in your ears and being compliant will always be a bad thing, also lay off the chatgpt nonsense. Lol.

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Gave a like. I skimmed your post because I gotta get to work.

But your logic is sound. At my job (I support infrastructure management at my job - patching troubleshooting system failures upgrading systems etc) I liked detailed. I am detailed. But give facts and data if your point is feedback.

Emotions don’t matter when it’s about resolving technology related issues.

Even if this wasn’t 100% written by ai:

Apparently they can’t act on anything important. Bugs which have been pointed out over the years again and again since 4+ years are still in the game. There are bugs in Legion remix that I have encountered back when Legion was released. That’s 10 years. Others just get ignored like the monk order hall one that sends you to a BfA phased version of a place without an escape or that the Shadowlands intro was bugged for 2 years.

What they can act on however are harmless bugs that don’t hurt anyone such as visual ones or bugs that people have fun with.

The developers of this game aren’t just lazy or awful, they actively make the game worse for us players.

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It sounds like you want a book, and not a video game

Is this the new ToS?

Meh.

The number of times the developers have demonstrably changed directions based on player feedback, especially for “major” issues or directions they’re going in, is negligible to the point of illusion.

They really don’t seem to have any change management in place – I don’t think there’s time. If something sucks, the “solution” is, “well, then it’ll suck until we get around to it” not, “oops, throw things in reverse, that was a dumb decision.” Maybe things will change as an expansion goes on, but once courses are locked in, the course is locked, and WoW is as maneuverable as an aircraft carrier with a turning radius the size of Cleveland.

And again, there’s no time. Blizzard hasn’t been a gamer driven outfit for longer than many of its customers have been alive. I’m of the belief that there some soulless business homunculus with some stupidly inflated title whose entire role is to stand behind the developers, hopping up and down screaming “gogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogo” like it’s a StarCraft matchmaking lobby. This is a business – not an art studio.

As for the forums and feedback… if anything, the forums have only become increasingly less relevant on that front. Long ago, we had a whole team of Community Managers who’d engage with the forums on a semi-regular basis. Now? Sure, there’s ToS enforcement, but that seems about it.

Ultimately, when it comes to the forums, I’m something of an absurdist nihilist on the matter. Because nothing matters so long as you don’t violate the ToS. As long as you don’t make the mods ban you, do whatever makes you feel good. If giving calm, well reasoned, appreciative, “constructive” feedback gives you the most out of these forums, then go ahead. If calling the development team a gaggle of a shaved howler monkeys drunk on lead paintchips is what brings you the most joy, go for it.

Because it won’t matter either way.

External feedback doesn’t matter. The developers are going to do what they can in the face of the gogo business homunculus, then what they want. That’s all there’s time for. This is the gaming industry - the devs are probably working 12 hour days on a slow week. Ultimately, if what you want aligns with what they want, then great. If not, too bad.

Maybe you can vent on the forums about it.

Im just gonna whine even harder now :rofl::joy:

LOL – Forum HOA.

:thread: :mute: :no_bell:

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I don’t think this is very good advice. Too much bias like “don’t call the devs lazy or they won’t gather your feedback” and “be positive” or even “give credit where it’s due”. That’s fluff and conjecture, and if one is truly worried about the delivery of their feedback they should be concise. That’s the only suggestion I’ve heard Blizzard actually make when it comes to feedback.

I was a blizzard shill for 20 years.

Look what they did to my boi Garrosh.

Why is OP attempting to re-define the forum rules which are already stickied at the top of the forum?

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But could it be therapy?

Was writing that and posting it therapeutic for you?

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Dear WoW Forums: This is not a World of Warcraft mini expansion where one post create a war of words that creates a multiple side quest of war of words between one or more responders.

LOL admit it how many times it has happened! I get whiplash “what are we talking about here?”

I can see the amount of thought that has gone into progressing the lore of the elves, and I am excited to see what you are workshopping for the Horde. Seeing the Forsaken at the table postSylvanas is a start, but the dedicated members of The Horde are looking for new leadership arcs that feel as well-developed as the Wrynn or Proudmoore stories. Specifically, a new story involving [your favorite orc] would really resonate with a lot of the players. The orcs are the original Horde, and have plenty of lore to explore.

I mean, this would be valid, if the folks working at Blizz didn’t ignore legitimate feedback they get every test cycle from their own internal data and bug reports… they don’t listen or care, been proven enough times.

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Look some of us, Sarcasm is our native language and I do not appreciate your bigotry against us.

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