Dear Warrior Dev

Classes Warrior
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Can you explain what your reasoning was behind taking away any and all burst we could’ve possibly done?

It’s actually ridiculous that BOTH SPECS have next to 0 on demand burst on single target. It’s infuriating playing warrior on Belo’ren, knowing that my damage during intermission is so negligible that it might as well be a tank.

I can play my rotation perfectly, and even get good procs and I won’t come even close to doing anything meaningful.

You have so thoroughly failed at your job that no one wants to even play DPS warrior on the last 3 bosses. People don’t want to bring them, and playing it is also miserable. Can you please quit so someone competent can take over?

The only light at the end of the tunnel I can even look forward to is L’ura P3 and P4.

You have no clue what you’re doing.

You designed a failure of an Apex talent that we didn’t even take and had to be changed mid-patch because we would rather take something else.

Your attempts at re-designing the existing hero talents are so bad, it caused a community wide backlash and you had to walk it back.

It’s very clear you have 0 CLUE WHAT YOU’RE DOING.

It’s genuinely miserable playing warrior, and I’m locked into it for prog. The last boss that warrior felt good on was Vanguard, and that was only because we could make use of Colossus’ great 3-target cleave profile.

As far as Slayer for Fury goes, it’s an abject failure. Fury would rather run mountain thane over it, even on the largely single target oriented boss of the tier. Slayer for Arms is barely hanging on by a thread that is its execute phase. Mountain Thane Fury gets outshined by Devourer in nearly all of its niches, becoming essentially a pad spec.

This class has received no reworks in several years, and has basically received very little actual love in terms of balancing. Instead you’ve made boneheaded design and tuning decisions over the last 4 tiers (Since you knee jerk nerfed Fury in Nerub-Ar). So I must ask - are you the greatest warrior player alive and know something that every other person is getting wrong? Because I don’t think that’s the case. I think you’re a terrible and completely out of touch class dev and have NO IDEA what you’re doing.

DISCLAIMER: People reading the post may ask “What makes you so qualified to pass judgment? I’ve been playing warrior since MoP. Mythic raiding Since HFC. I’ve only missed a handful of tiers where I didn’t get CE as warrior. I play all three specs and have mained DPS warrior for years now. I was there for the glory days in Legion, and I was also there for the horror that was Castle Nathria. I’ve seen it all. So please take my word when I say that this is one of the most miserable times to play warrior from a tuning standpoint. As far as actual gameplay loop goes, it’s not bad. However, the poor talent tree design, tuning, and lack of variance in playstyle makes things miserable at the moment.

When I’m out of my depth at work, I usually ask my seniors and people smarter than me for help. It’s usually the right thing to do so that I don’t further muck anything up.

Seeing as how you haven’t done that (as evidenced by the lack of good changes or tuning), please resign from your job and let someone with worthwhile ideas and competency take over.

I wish you the best of luck going forward.

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Agree….

Blizzard will not listen or care. But don’t worry. Blizzard warrior class cucks will most likely show up in this thread to tell you why you are wrong.

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I normally don’t reply to rant posts as negativity can get in the way, but I have been playing warrior as tank and dps since vanila, hardcore raiding guilds and more casual. I do believe the post owner has valid points. The class tuning is puzzling, arms were nerfed when already at the bottom before buffs brought them up more.

Looking at warcraftlogs and raider io stats for warrior, dps warrior specs are both in the bottom of the raid dps charts compared to all 27 specs in the game. Arms is higher than fury at 20th of 27 specs. No other class in the game has all their dps specs as low as warrior. Each class has at least one spec relatively higher in the dps charts. These aren’t opinions, they are facts that anyone can look at.

Blizzard, you need to help out the warrior class here….

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Plot twist: there is no warrior dev and so this wall of text falls on the ears of a wall.

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i smell something… Greìl will be in here soon.

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i bet they are using Ai 100%

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AI would likely do a better job. This screams ego. They have an idea of what they want each class to excel at and a style they want them to play. They alluded to it with the doubling down on target caps with the comment about “every dog getting their day” shortly after absolutely neutering fury for excelling at soft-capped cleave on Ansurek, and other comments about utilizing the return of tier sets to adjust gameplay styles.

The problem is, as we have shouted from the rooftops and pointed fingers at repeatedly, it’s very obvious non of the devs actually play warrior, at least not on the regular. They have a small team dedicated to class balance and it’s been stated they do it as a committee, with regularly scheduled assessments of class performance. Certain classes get more attention for a reason, others get ignored for that same reason.

End of the day, and sad to say, unless we scream and throw a tantrum about it, nothing changes. Slayer is likely going to remain dead for the rest of this season.

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I’ve been a warrior coper for multiple tiers now.

I hoped for it in LoU when they randomly nuked Arms execute for 0 reason. We were not overrepresented or insanely overpowered.

It got even worse in MFO with the absolute degenerate rage-cap while spamming RB playstyle that Slayer Fury had.

The thing is, even if warrior sucked stylistically, good play would always reward you. I could always guarantee doing a fair bit of relevant damage. A mixture of add and boss damage depending on how I talented and how I played.

Now it’s just a wet noodle. Whatever niche I had on fights like Nexus-King or Dragons, is easily overtaken by the two Devourer demon hunters in my raid. My boss damage is so insultingly low on any relevant fights, it felt like I was griefing my guild by being brought in on fights like Crown of the Cosmos, and now Belo’ren. It’s the reason why I started gearing classes with use like Aug, DK, and Ret.

My guild has wiped multiple times to Belo’ren at sub 1% pulls that I could’ve made a difference on if my burn phase damage wasn’t the single worst in the entire game, bar none.

This post is the result of frustrations that have built up since Dragonflight. In that time, I’ve played classes like Windwalker, DK, Ret, Shaman, Augvoker, and am left speechless at how other classes can have solid design, with a specific niche and decent tuning numbers. Then I look at warrior and sigh. It just feels like we’re getting shafted for no good reason when I see that other classes have what we want.

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