In case you haven’t noticed, there are lots of dungeon mobs (and even some bosses) who have an enrage that can be removed - even when it’s not Raging Week. You’re in a better position than Druid healers to know which targets are enraged. Help out your group by using your utility.
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Can healers not target mobs?
Of course we can. How does that question in any way rebut what you quoted?
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How can you not know which targets are enraged then?
You can tell just as well as a moonkin which targets are enraged.
Moonkins (and anyone else in a DPS role) are targeting enemy mobs more than 95% of the time. Healers are targeting enemy mobs less than 10% of the time. How can the phrase “in a better position” not be clear to you?
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Ideally you’re running something like Plater which will highlight important dispellable enemy buffs on their nameplates so there’s no need to target them in the first place, all relevant information will be displayed constantly. That said, I do agree that the DPS should be handling the soothe/tranq while the Tank and Healer take care of explosive.
What, lol.
Are you targeting people to heal? If so you should stop trying to give people advice.
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I think you’re just trying to be obtuse. The point is that dispelling isn’t just a healer job. I’m happy to take the lead on that, but for example when the three bear mobs just before the first boss in Halls of Atonement enrage, I can only sooth one of them. If someone else in the group is able help with that and they don’t, that’s either selfish, stupid, or worse.
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Dispelling is everyone’s job but your biggest problem is that you are trying to heal by targeting players when you should be using mouseovers on raid frames or a healing addon.
Your posts are quite unhelpful. Just take a 2 second break from spamming starsurge and soothe the enrage.
For a moonkin to soothe enrage instead of casting their surge during BOAT window would be a huge DPS loss. Which is why healers and tanks do these mechanics where possible.
But I play guardian btw.
You guys are stuck in first level thinking where you think that DPS is less important than healing or tanking. In fact it’s the opposite. You don’t need to heal the tank when the mobs hitting the tank are dead.
Things like explosive, soothes, dealing with spiteful mobs etc are something that the tank and healer should be doing while the DPS do their job, which is killing the mobs. If the healer can’t do that because he’s stuck in 2005 and healing players by clicking on them and pressing heal then that healer needs to learn how to play properly.
Shhhhhh, just soothe the enrage.
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Ah yes, because everything to you is a tank mechanic. I guess interrupting is something that only tanks and resto shamans (only healers with an interrupt) should do since the dps are so preoccupied with their “rotations”.
What if the boomkin is the only person in the group that can remove enrages? Well I guess it is more important to put more stress on the tank and healer than simply using 1 gcd to get rid of an enrage.
You sound like those healers who would rather heal through a nasty magic dot than simply dispelling it.
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In most cases, dispelling is not worth the GCD loss. If in doubt, do not dispell.
Pretty much, because I’m a tank.
Then the boomkin should dispel enrages on mobs with dangerous AOE (like Masks in DoS or Portal Guardians in ToP) but otherwise you just play raging like you are supposed to play it - by kiting when mobs hit 30%.
If you only have 1 enrage dispel you can’t tank that trash pack anyway. You only bother soothing mobs that have dangerous AOE. If It’s a pack of trash your boomkin should just be dropping a vortex rather than soothing.
Yes druids and hunters should be soothing. I wouldnt take an advice from somone who has barely done an 11 key and cleared 1 boss on heroic lol.
DPS should soothe
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Adding my two cents here.
If you have an enrage dispel or magic dispel attached to your class, your primary job above all else is dispelling. Obviously within reason, you’re not going to be soothing inside your CD windows, same as I wouldn’t spell steal a buff on my Mage inside Combust, but that’s using more than 2 braincells to form thoughts.
If you have an instant cast damage ability without charges, or you’re melee, you should be dealing with explosives. Period. I don’t care if you’re the healer, if you’re not dealing with explosives you’re wrong.
If the tank dies to enrage because nobody dispelled it, the blame goes completely on everyone in the party with an enrage dispel. It doesn’t matter who’s job it’s supposed to be, if the enrage was not dispelled you’re wrong and it’s your fault for not dispelling it.
That’s literally gameplay 101. If you’re going to argue that point I suggest you go back to heroic dungeons and m0’s to relearn what dungeon mechanics are.
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THIS.
this is the problem with DPS.
it’s not that they do not understand the value of soothe, binding shot, blind and so on… it’s that they’ll wait until they have an empty GCD to use it, prioritizing their DPS rotation over it.
when the shard of halkias enrage, when the red spirit in DoS enrage, when the first boss in ToP put his shield on… you need to soothe NOW. not in 3 second when you have an empty GCD… NOW. I don’t care what kind of CD you have up.
once you start caring about mob control as a DPS player, your success rate will skyrocket up.
I have and will continue to tranq shot even when trueshot is up and wild spirits are on the ground.