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I don’t think anyone was suggesting Draenei or Belfs should be added to vanilla era, just these new servers. Blizzard has really muddied this by trying to make “fresh” vanilla and “eventually TBC” at the same time with the same servers. I think this was a mistake. They really should have announced these as just TBC servers with a long vanilla phase, because that’s how a lot of people are treating it. When you think about it like that, adding the TBC races at the beginning makes a lot of sense… more sense than making people waiting for TBC play through a whole vanilla cycle just to get to TBC. That’s why these suggestions are appearing on the forums.
But vanilla players also deserve to have their desire for “fresh” servers answered. This seems to be such a popular request… I really don’t understand why Blizzard doesn’t just make some Era servers repeatedly reset on a cycle. It would be like Hardcore… don’t play on them if you don’t want to “die”. Then people who like starting over all the time can choose those.
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This is a “reset” cant be anything else, as we only have three forms, classic, sod and retail… alot of people want to play classic(vanilla), and freash classic should be just that, we are talking about just that, freash classic(vanilla) servers… now if people want freash retail servers, they should defiantly get that… and now we also have the hybrid “changes” for classic, wich is SoD… all these three forms can and should get freash servers…
The hype, is for freash classic(vanilla) servers, not SoD, not retail…Now as some stated i get we all have our pet likes and dislikes, but keep adding on stuff will again only alinate the classic population… and wow cant afford to loose a rapidly shrinking player base…
Actually the hype is not only for fresh vanilla, it’s also for TBC since it was announced these servers would progress to TBC.
This is the problem. Blame Blizzard for trying to kill two birds with one stone, not the players waiting for TBC and asking for some tweaks to make it better for them.
There are many other threads here of people complaining that combining the two is Blizzard missing the mark.
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Im not arguing, but if we want changes, add that to the servers that has changes… SoD… and we probably will get SoD TBC with lots of changes… why not ?
Now to ask you, do you really think, we need four server types ?.. couse you are bascially arguing for Blizz to have Classic(vanilla) with resets… then Classic with some changes with resets, and you want SoD with resets, and retail with freash servers…
Now add the progresion into tbc and wrath… im not going to go on, couse bottom line isnt about “changes”, its about in cycles blizz resets servers, and its been alot of years since classic got a reset… dont chase away they people that are comming back to classic…
we dont need a fourth server type we have SoD for changes !
Ill premise this by saying, I am interested in maining a BE pally.
However - classes in classic were already threat capped against their tanks. One of the main reason tanks got geared first/first Thunderfury etc, is to allow the tank to pump out more threat, therefore everyone else can pump more dps.
Paladins get salv, one thing that offset Paladins from shaman WF etc totems was blessing of salvation which reduced threat of everyone by 30%. Which would be a dps+ since now u can pump harder.
IDK how much bosses can take, blizzard would have to adjust boss value too since bosses die in seconds already.
Seems a lot - coming from me who wants Paladin. Dont get me wrong, i hope they do.
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Slight note on tanking, in classic most tanks, in most occasions do it in dps build as more dps, means more threat, more threat means dps can do more damage… and in classic, threat is actually a issue for dps
now as for salvation, yes it makes it easier for tank to hold threat, but it doesnt make the raid do more damage… if you take WF, that makes tank to do more damage, wich again means entire raid can push harder… wich is why horde is easy mode…
And Paladins sorta have a “taunt”, casting kings, is huge threat, sure its not forced, but kings has a rdicoulus amount of threat to it…
What i said for more damage is because salv reduces threat, dps have more room to pump out more damage. So essentially more damage.
There is a small part of me that is holding out for draenei on the character creation screen as a bonus change. It would be absolutely epic to go through class once with shaman and paladin on both sides. Especially with the servers going to TBC.
After that small disappointment, I’ll make another gnome and just farm some gold for a while… waiting for my time to go shaman!
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Nothing would stop me from going ally if
I got that juicy draenei racial 1% hit buff 
if the new realms would not progress into TBC most would not play them, they would just stay in Whitemane. I, for one, would like to make a blood elf paladin. I´m not willing to make a filler character for more than an year while waiting for the TBC pre patch to then start investing on my paladin. So i´ll probably just roll alliance.
Now, if they gave the information that the TBC would stay forever as an ERA realm. I would then go horde and prepare for my horde paladin patch, as it would make more sense as the time investment would have a bigger return in playtime.
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Well just keep playing era for a year then make a pally come tbc?
Do US citizens really make simple solutions this complicated?
Adding two major cities plus starter zones in one day. Easy peezy! I’ll approve but only if loot tables don’t change. No pally sets on horde and no shaman sets for ally. Fair trade since it’s a tbc waiting room anyway.
So you’re talking about asking the classic wow team to piecewise stitch bits and pieces from TBC into this vanilla? The same dev team that can’t push 1 (one) change to the SoD client without breaking 4 things on the era server?
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fair point, i have absolutely no confidence on blizzard to implement good changes and not bad changes. So yeah, if its #nochanges vs SOD, ill pick #nochanges everyday
Kaviax is a CM so I’ll be impressed if he pulls it off
do you people realize just how much work it would take to fit these two races and their starting zones / quests into the vanilla game 
the answer is no, you don’t. you think this is easy peasy and could be done in an afternoon.
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oh yeah. totally. that’s how hard it was to pre-patch right before an expansion and make servers like SOD/SOM. 
you got a source on this other than “trust me bro they said it”?
There will be draenei and blood elves on the RP-PVP realm