Blizzard; we know you love this game as much as your players.
Monks are the least played class, despite being one of the most unique additions to the game. Aside from Brewmaster, the community has not been able to tell the direction you’re taking us since Warlords of Draenor. We’re the smallest part of the pie for Class Representation, and the state of 2/3 specs is about to drive even more people away from the class.
There is overwhelming feedback from this part of your community, both on live and beta, who are terrified after seeing the changes you’re making. We feel that time is running out, and if we want to do the content we love without holding 19 other people back, we’ll have to jump ship to another class.
Windwalker has lots of utility but does very weak damage currently. Classes with similar levels of utility aren’t seeing their damage brought so low. It’s supposed to be a master martial artist but honestly feels more like we’re at the “wax on, wax off” stage.
Mistweaver is in a horrible state. The only blue post we’ve received in months promised changes, all of which were reverted or nerfed yesterday. Mana Tea coming off the GCD is nice but doesn’t address the problems we have in a raid environment. We have very strong single target healing, but keep getting pushed into a raid healing role, with the end result of not doing either as well as any other healer. The flow of the class feels bad, and when things were starting to look like it may feel good (Chi-Ji) it gets nerfed out of viability.
We want to have faith that it’s all a matter of tuning numbers, but with the lack of any communication from you on almost anything, it’s causing a high volume of stress for the people considering maining monk.
Talk to your players, that’s all we’re asking for at this point. If it’s too late to brainstorm ideas with your player base that’s alright, but at least open dialogue.
It’s probably a good thing I’m lacking beta access, every new survey that came out would just be me pointing out I have no clue since my class doesn’t work. And we don’t even know if what seems to work is supposed to work that way.
The beta is literally bug after bug. I had to tank an entire dungeon yesterday with no stagger. Also in the dungeon I had that timewarp looking animation going constantly. The animation you get while flying through the portal things. The beta is so far behind.
Yes please. I want to main a Monk. I don’t want to feel like I have to main a Druid just because I have no idea what’s happening with Monk. The changes make no sense at all and I don’t know what that means. Do you have a direction you’re going in and I’m just not seeing it? Or do you have no idea what you want and you’re just patching little leaks as they spring up?
I know it may seem futile but lets keep the pressure up, even if you don’t tweet do it , if you have a streaming or youtube channel do a video. Make some noise out there so maybe just maybe we can at least get told they don’t care.
Some of the feedback is legit so good, it’s a total freebie for any dev that wants to spruce the class up a bit. I really don’t know why they actively avoid working on monk so much. Is the spaghetti code just that terrifying that nobody is willing to pick up the baton? I truly don’t think there is anyone at Blizzard that really understands how monk works. Look at the chi ji nerfs last week… just totally mystifying. Like I understand if something needs tuning, but why totally nuke it in 6 different ways (see RM “fix” during BFA that totally killed it in raid). And then as an example for WW, not putting rank 2 RSK into the beta build… it’s almost like WW is such a toxic spec to work on that devs are afraid to get their hands dirty, and consequently end up turning a blind eye to such simple issues.
Not sure if confirmed but did they just nerf brewmaster lately in the beta? If so with dps and healing monk specs bugged and broken and then nerfing brm. That really feels like they want no one playing monk this go…
I found all the Blizzard employees I possibly could on Twitter. It’s helped me humanize “Blizzard” a lot more. They really do seem to love/play the game by their casual personal Tweets.
P.S. I’ve been keeping up the good fight tweeting the CEO, Holinka and Ion at least once a day with a screenshot from our forums and/or an article from the community.
The Brewmaster nerf was expected and warranted. Their survivability and damage was out classing every other tank. Now instead of being the best tank with nobody near as close, they’re simply the best tank option, with Pally/DK being close behind.
Not much testing needed. We asked “How come it says all physical damage, but X ability doesn’t work with it?” and the result was updated text with the specific abilities. The rephrased tooltip is 100% how it works on beta at the moment, it just happens to suck major dookie.
And if you’re surprised we’re likely shipping out broken, don’t be, it’s happened before. We’re the red-headed step-child of classes, literally if you take Chi-Ji into consideration.
As for the changes to chi-ji, if the tooltip is 100% correct that means tiger palm doesn’t work with it, which it currently does on the ptr. Which in turn may have broken something else. And alternating between RSK, BoK, and SCK sounds…odd to build up stacks, considering the CD on RSK and small CD on BoK. So, in my opinion, I think this tooltip change could very well change their intentions with the spell entirely. Could be that it works with TotM again, because otherwise we’d only be able to get out a couple of envelopings during the 25 seconds and this spell is…somehow even weaker than it was last week, which is saying something. But, in order to find any of this out, we need a way to test it.
For me personally it is the lack of change rather than the changes that have occurred which worries me.
8.2 and 8.3 both showed that the status quo is not good enough, therefore we need changes to go further. So far the changes have really been quite small.
worth the sacrifice if helps get some attention for us.