Been looking at Phase 8 sims.
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Care to link those sims? Because shamans arent on top, on any spec. You should post on your jaded paladin instead.
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there is a google doc I canāt link it cause blizzard
master ā p8-tuning
opened 11:53PM - 01 Apr 25 UTC
- Druid
- Feral
- The Tier 2 2-piece bonus now increases the duration ofā¦ Rake by 3sec (was 6sec)
- The Tier 2.5 2-piece bonus now increases Shred's damage by 5% while behind the target (was 15%)
- Staff of the Glade now grants 25% increased energy regeneration when the buff activates (was 50%) and now always increases Ferocious Bite's damage by 25% while equipped (was 50% while the buff was active)
- The original Vanilla Tiger's Fury will now be overriden by the improved SoD version
- Balance
- The Tier 4 2-piece bonus now causes Wrath to deal 40% more damage to targets with Sunfire (was 20%)
- The Tier 4 6-piece bonus now causes Sunfire ticks to increase the damage of your next Wrath by 40% (was 20%)
- Hunter
- Ranged
- The Tier 2.5 2-piece bonus now increases the damage of Kill shot by 10% (was 30%)
- The Tier 3 2-piece and 4-piece bonuses have been swapped in order to give ranged hunters access to a more synergistic set bonus to go with their Tier 4
- The Tier 3 2-piece bonus (aka previous 4-piece) now reduces the cooldown of Multi-shot by 3sec in addition to its existing effects
- The Tier 4 2-piece bonus now causes your Shots to deal 25% increased damage against targets with Serpent Sting (was 20%)
- The Tier 4 4-piece bonus now causes your ranged critical strike to increase your attack power by 25% (was 20%)
- The Tier 4 6-piece bonus now increases the damage of Multi-shot by 50% stacking up to 4 times and will now correctly proc off of Chimera - Serpent in the sim (this interaction was confirmed)
- The Tier 4 set's itemization will be changed to provide less hit and more crit, as we found that ranged builds didn't need as much hit as the set provided
- Melee
- The Tier 4 2-piece bonus now causes your Strikes and Mongooe Bite to deal 25% increased damage against targets with Serpent Sting or Wyvern Strike
- The Tier 4 4-piece bonus now causes your melee critical strikes to increase your attack speed by 30% (was 20%)
- The Tier 4 6-piece bonus now increases the bonus damage of Raptor Fury by 15% per stack (was 10%)
- Melee Specialist now has a 40% chance to proc (was 30%)
- Raptor Strike's off-hand attack now deals normal weapon damage (was normalized)
- This will cause dual-wielding hunters to prefer slower off-hand weapons
- Poleaxe of the Beast now grants your and your pet 5% increased damage per stack (was 3%)
- Strings of fate has been changed to ilvl 100 with stats buffed accordingly. This weapon has a special acquisition, so the team wanted to make sure it would be the best option available in Phase 8
- This weapon has also had its stats changed to make it stronger. These changes are already in the sim but the tooltip will be out of date until they're available on Wowhead
- Queensfall now causes your pet's Flanking Strike to also deal 150% damage when behind the target. Tthis was already accounted for in the sim previously
- Biznicks 247x128 Accurascope now grants your pet 3% additional melee hit chance. This is not noted in its tooltip
- This change was designed to make the scope appealing for Ranged BM after removing several points of hit from their Tier 4 set
- The new Searing Shot and Searing Arrow ammunition now have 30 base damage (was 25)
- Mage
- The Zul'Gurub 5-piece bonus now increases the the damage of Spellfrost Bolt by 75% (was 65%)
- The Ruins of Ahn'Qiraj 3-piece bonus now increases damage by 4% per stack up to 12% (was 3% and 9% respectively)
- The DPS Tier 3 2-piece and 4-piece bonuses have been swapped
- This change was aimed at removing the unpopular Evocation buff from play, as other options simply couldn't compete even with the nerfs to 1% per stack.
- The DPS Tier 4 2-piece bonus now causes Glaciate to stack up to 10 times (was 8)
- The DPS Tier 4 4-piece bonus now causes Deep Freeze to extend Icy Veins by 10sec (was 8sec) and causes Pyroblast csts to remove 2 stacks of Balefire Bolt (was 1)
- The DPS Tier 4 6-piece bonus now reduces the cooldown of Frozen Orb by 25sec (was 20sec)
- Balefire Bolt's damage now increases by 25% per stack of it debuff (was 20%)
- In addition, the 5th stack now only kills you when Balefire Bolt lands. This will allow mages to spell queue Pyroblast with the Tier 4 4-piece to reach 5 stacks without dying.
- Paladin
- The Tier 1 6-piece bonus now reduces the damage of Seal of Command, Righteousness, and Martyrdom by 45% (was 15%)
- The Tier 2 2-piece bonus now increases the damage of your damaging Judgements by 5% (was 20%)
- The Tier 2 4-piece bonus now reduces the cooldown of your Judgements by 2sec (was 5sec)
- The Tier 4 2-piece bonus now increases holy damage by 10% per stack of Holy Power (was 20%)
- The Tier 4 6-piece bonus now increases attack power by 15% per Holy Power consumed (was 10%)
- Righteous Vengeance now deals 30% of the critical damage of abilities that proc it (was 50%)
- Leogan's proc now grants 200 strength (was 250)
- Priest
- The Shadow Tier 1 6-piece bonus now increases the damage of Mind Flay by 25% when it procs (was 50%) and now causes mind flay to tick every 495ms (was 500msec)
- This change aims to help players avoid losing their final tick due to latency and spell queueing
- The Shadow Tier 4 6-piece bonus now increases the subsequent tick damage of Mind Flay by 75%, stacking multiplicatively (was 100%)
- Rogue
- The Tank Tier 1 2-piece bonus will now correctly increase the threat of Crimson Tempest by 100% (this was a sim bug)
- The DPS Tier 4 2-piece bonus now causes the affected abilities to gain 20% increased damage per bleed or poison up to 60% (was 10% and 30% respectively)
- The DPS Tier 4 6-piece will now correctly increase the damage of Crimson Tempest by 50% (this was a sim bug)
- Mutilate now deal 90% weapon plus bonus damage (was 80%)
- Saber Slash now 40% increased damage per stack of its dot (was 33% per stack)
- Carnage now causes you to deal 15% increased damage to targets affected by your bleeds (was 8%)
- Slaughter from the Shadows now increases the damage of Backstab by 75% (was 60%)
- Queensfall now causes your Backstab, Mutilate, and Saber Slash critical strikes to refresh the duration of both Rupture and Crimson Tempest (was just Rupture)
- Shaman
- Enhancement
- The Tier 4 2-piece bonus no longer gives a second Lightning Shield charge on each hit when using a two-handed weapon
- The Tier 4 4-piece bonus now increases the damage of Fire Nova Totem by 200% (was 150%) and reduces the cooldown by 60% (was 50%)
- The Tier 4 6-piece bonus now causes each stack of Maelstrom Weapon above 5 increases the damage of affected spells by 20% (was 10%)
- The Two-Handed Mastery rune now grants 35% attack speed (was 50%) and 10% more attack power (was 15%)
- Lava Lash now gains 150% increased damage when using the Flametongue Weapon imbue on your off-hand weapon (was 100%)
- Scarlet Smasher's proc now grants 200 strength (was 250)
- Mercy and Crimson Cleaver's procs are now `Equip` effects (can proc from abilities) and their buffs stack up to 4 (was 2), however Mercy no longer buffs or consumes charges from your Flametongue Weapon procs
- Elemental
- The Tier 3 2-piece bonus now increases the periodic damage of Flame Shock by 40%
- The Tier 4 2-piece bonus now causes Flame Shock to instantly tick when struck by Lightning Bolt, Lava Burst, or Chain Lightning and their overloads (was just Lava Burst and its overloads)
- It also has the following damage adjustments from other sources:
- Each point of the Concussion talent reduces the ticks' damage by 1% per point, applied multiplicatively
- This change aims to counteract "double dipping" of this talent
- The Tier 3 2-piece bonus increases the ticks' damage by 40%, applied multiplicatively
- Storm, Earth, and Fire increases the ticks' damage by 60%, applied multiplicatively
- These changes were intended to give Ele a stronger 2-piece than it has historically had access to
- The Tier 4 now has a second 4-piece bonus: Your Lava Burst deals increased damage equal to its critical strike chance.
- This is an exact copy of the 3-piece Ruins of Ahn'Qiraj set bonus and does not stack. The intention behind it is to allow Ele players to have other options for their Weapon, Cloak, and Ring slots while retaining desperately-needed scaling on their Lava Burst
- Warlock
- The DPS Tier 3 4-piece bonus now causes its instant DoT ticks to deal 33% of normal damage (was 75%)
- The DPS Tier 4 2-piece bonus no longer gains additional damage from debuffs on the target (aka "double dipping")
- The DPS Tier 4 6-piece now grants 20% additional cast speed from periodic critical strikes (was 15%). This does not apply to the cast speed granted by Backdraft
- Warrior
- The DPS Tier 1 6-piece Forecaster bonuses now grant 5% of each effect (was 10%)
- The DPS Tier 2 4-piece bonus now increases the damage of Heroic Strike, Quick Strike, Overpower, and Slam by 10% (was 25%)
- The DPS Tier 2.5 4-piece bonus now increases damage against targets with both Rend and Deep Wounds by 15% (was 25%)
- The DPS Tier 4 4-piece bonus no longer grants an additional stack when using a two-handed weapon
- The DPS Tier 4 6-piece bonus now increases the damage of Whirlwind against targets with Deep Wounds by 100% (was 50%)
- The Fallen Regality set (Queensfall and Kingsfall) now causes Cleave to gain 25% additional damage for each unused bounce (was 35%)
- Frenzied Assault now grants 40% attack speed when using a two-handed weapon (was 35%)
- Items
- Blade of Inquisition's proc now grants 175 strength (was 250)
- Experiment-800M's explosions will no longer benefit from the player's damage buffs or debuffs on the target
- The damage from this effect made it far stronger than other options available
- This item's stats have also been manually adjusted in the sim. These changes are already in the sim but the tooltip will be out of date until they're available on Wowhead
There are also a number of itemization / stat changes coming that are not listed here that will help many classes further.
Give shamans a free 3-set bonus NERF everything else.
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Those are the changes, not the sims
There is a google doc I canāt link it cause blizzard. Look for it you potato
lol. love these unresearched posts
there are more paladins than shamans
druids are the most popular class so not only are shamans not the most popular but your exaggeration that shamans take up half the horde pop is comical
sims this early have not been accurate historically. Last phase was definitely not accurate. Regardless, shamans arent on top this phase or next.
More Horde Paladins than Horde Shamansā¦ Got it.
Behind every nerf shaman post is a soon to be nerfed paladin.
100% Shaman hiding behind a level 13 Warlock. Embarassing.
A really dumb person making forum posts, embarrassing.
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There is no sim with shamans killing the meters thoughā¦
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You do know:
We have not finished our last balance pass
Shaman in P8 BiS sims are yet again middle, what are you even on about
Are you mixing up what the Sims mean? Can be misleading I guess if someone isnāt used to looking at them
Yeah Iām curious where he is getting this. I think heās looking at P8 Week 1 BiS, AKA Scarlet pre-bis
There is only one pure dps class left in the game ā hunter.
So youāre saying every class other than hunters should be doomed to subpar dps numbers because their class is capable of fulfilling other roles?
No thanks. Thatās terrible game design.
If we are talking about faction balance, 2H enhancement (the top shaman sim) is only 220 dps ahead of the top paladin sim.
Elemental is near the bottom. The second highest paladin sim is above the dual wield shaman sim.
The top shaman sim is also 800 dps behind the highest spec atm.
OP is smoking crack (since you want to insult other people on your post), these numbers are not very far off.
(and no Iām not a shaman. I actually canāt stand playing the class. I love pallies)
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Everyone gonna start playing Private servers at this rate hahahaahaa
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