Deadmines is VC not DM

Just a friendly reminder that the precedent was set back in 2004 with people referring to the dungeon as VC. If any one chooses to call it DM (Which stands for Diremaul) they will reveal their noobness and people will immediately know that they were not a vanilla OG (original gangster).

The reason why it was such a popular name is due to the quest to kill Van Cleef, which was a main motivating factor for why people ran deadmines in the first place. However since then, Dire Maul has appeared which only strengthens the position of calling it VC, otherwise there would be deep confusion regarding the DM acronym. The counter argument to this position is that you need a direction for diremaul such as Dire Maul East (DME). This may add a bit of clarity however if a group intends to run multiple Dire Maul instances in one go, its easier to refer to their endeavor as DM. Or one could suggest running DM (Without the group yet having determined which wing). Given all this evidence its fairly clear that calling deadmines DM is the inferior solution. Now that the objective facts have been presented, we will discuss the conjecture regarding where this decision (VC vs DM) could potentially lead an individual into either order or chaos.

I conjecture that the ones clinging to DM live a life of nihilism and chaos, not knowing right from wrong, or up from down. Order will always evade them and when they seek to make sense of the world around them, they will continue to be confused and baffled by having not only given up common rationality but deliberately betraying it and twisting the knife into all things sense making. So for the sake of creating a more rational world please use VC instead of DM or forever be lost in darkness.

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No one cares.

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I call it VC, Victor Charlie, just like in the 'Nam.

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I love DM its such a good instance

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I know this is just a bait post but dire maul came out in 2005. Not in 2004. So no, people didn’t establish DM (deadmines) as VC. Sorry bud. No one calls an instance after a(n) end boss lol

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Do like you do when you see the xbox - just 360 and walk away, OP.

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DM = Deadmines
DME/DMW = Dire Maul East/West
/end of story

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Can confirm it was actually called VC in 2004-2006

I don’t really care if newbies in 2022 call it DM though.

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Fyi, in 2005 we definitely called it VC. NICE TRY

No it was not.

Dire Maul was released in 2005.

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I started this lawl.

Can confirm, OG days we called it VC. Leaves me dazed and confused wondering why so many people form their Dire Maul groups in Westfall, and I guess they’re doing all wings since they don’t specify one.

360 is a full circle, yo.

Sheesh.
You might as well tell everyone that the VC vs DM for Deadmines thing was server determined.
Way to spoil the joke, Dad.

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After DM came out you called it VC because still calling it DM then would confuse DM with DM.

Whelp. My work here is done!

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a hill I will die on

It was called DM = Deadmines UNTIL DIre Maul was released then people started calling it VC as well as DM

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Nope i distinctly remember in december of 2004 everyone only using VC

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I agree. Deadmines will ALWAYS be VC to me.

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