Dead servers

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I get that they don’t want to admit their mistakes (or worse, that they purposefully did this for monetary gain), but I can’t believe that “player made issue” was the best thing some coked up executive could come up with when his staff was asking how to handle the issue.

Also, even if it were, so what? Player made issues happen all the time…what does blizzard do? Fix them. Gold buying leading to rampant botting = perhaps the ultimate player made issue. Blizzard bans bots and buyers as well as rolls back accounts in response (although not as often as a lot of us would like). They don’t throw their hands up and say “well, people are buying gold, but this is a player made issue so we can’t get involved “. Instead the argument is that people’s real life money shouldn’t affect their game play…almost like being able to buy a server transfer or boost. Hmm. I guess the rhetoric changes when the money is flowing into someone else’s pockets. Disgrace.

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Another LOLOLOLOLOL about calling this a “player-made issue” is that Blizzard does not provide official population numbers. For example, I’ve played Horde and Alliance on Sulfuras since Day 1 (still do, for now). If a totally brand new TBCC player was looking at US-East PVP servers, Sulfuras would be labeled as high-population. Okay, sounds great!

However, what Blizzard DOES NOT tell you, is that Sulfuras is now <1000 Alliance and >7000 Horde. How is a player expected to make an informed decision about where to create a character based on existing faction populations? Blizzard doesn’t provide any official numbers. Player have to rely on third-party websites for an estimation of actual server population and faction balance.

Will some of the "HEY GUYS, BLIZZARD SAID THAT THEY’RE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS, SO THAT MEANS YOU SHOULD STOP CRITICIZING BLIZZARD BECAUSE BLIZZARD ISN’T RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS BECAUSE THEY SAY THEY ARENT" apologists please explain to us 90-Quotient midwits how this is a player-made issue (specifically, the lack of official numbers provided by Blizzard)?

Kurinnaxx is a ‘low-population’ server. Of course, Blizzard doesn’t tell you that Kurinnaxx is so low population that it doesn’t even have 500 concurrent players. So if a new player creates a character there, well… guess that’s a ‘player-made’ problem (LOLOLOL SHOULD ROLLED ON BENEDICTION, DOPE).

Herod, Sulfuras, Fairbanks, Skeram, Kromcrush, Kirtonos, BLAMMO, are effectively HORDE ONLY PVP servers? How is a new Alliance (or Horde) player supposed to know that just by looking at the server selection screen?

Blizzard can absolve themselves of responsibility all they want. Apologists can say "YEAH WELL BLIZZARD HAS NEVER BALANCED SERVER POPULATIONS, LOOK AT RETAIL". This is Blizzard’s intellectual property and Blizzard has an obligation to their playerbase. That Blizzard has done nothing – in Classic Classic, TBC Classic, or Retail – and continues to do nothing, does not remove their culpability (even if they say it they’re not responsible).

Blizzard has repeatedly demonstrated that they can/will only be shamed into action. So if non-stop criticism is what it takes, so be it. Blizzard did it to itself (and their players).

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you should have seen benediction today. Lagging so bad. Shattrath overpopulatd

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Yep, I agree, telling Blizzard they are doing no wrong here is just making things worse for everybody. They added unending layers that were never authentic to TBC and that’s one of the primary causes of these server issues. If Benediction had 4-hour queues masses of the alliance would not be going there. This part is all on Blizzard.

There’s a lot of what’s best described as victim-blaming especially when we are talking about people who are new to the forums and are only here because there are 100 people on their server at peak times and they can’t do anything so they make topics here.

There is zero empathy from some of the posters on this issue but yet you look at their other stuff and they get upset over the tiniest things (and I’m not even talking about the frequent topics here) that as far as I’m concerned are complete non-issues. Like alliance getting a loot box for BGs or a warlock life tapping. Why does this stuff matter to anyone instead of it mattering that people have to shell out lots of money? it’s just very self-centered thinking.

I do think that some people are really trying to help when they suggest transferring so that person will have a better experience. I think that a few of the replies saying that Blizzard is not to blame are either shilling or being a “Blizzard fanboy” because some of these people defend Blizzard every time with everything. Some other posters just seem to be ok with it because their (side of the) server is fine and who cares about anyone else.

I’m going to keep playing for now because of friends and because I do like the core of the game still but I did cancel “extra” accounts and I will no longer buy any “new” expansion that I know I won’t play for more than a few weeks or purchase any “extras”. Even though a transfer may be “necessary” and I may end up purchasing that, that’s it. I have bought useless stuff before like mounts etc and I won’t do that ever again.

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That’s how I feel - if it was a populated server that I just wasn’t happy with - that’s on me.

But it’s not. DD is just dead as a doornail, what little community there is is fantastic. But, it’s so hard knowing if anyone gets sick you’re basically screwed.

I still don’t know how I"m ever going to get revered for heroics. It took me over 2 hours last night to get a group for Mana Tombs. I think the tank that came just felt bad for us and did it as a favor. There’s just NO ONE to pull from.

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Agreed

Also agreed

Merging low population servers is good. I don’t know if they can actually enable cross server for some realms and not others. PvE-PvP wouldn’t move the needle at all. The PvP servers are shifting to PvE because that’s what players want. There’s nothing you can do about that.

Seems like most people are willing to try at least one transfer. But, yeah, seeing this same pattern repeat has to be infuriating.

PvE realms seem to be fine :smile:

Again, this seems to be what players want.

I mostly agree with your points. If Blizzard is going to add layers and remove the incentive for players to spread out, they might as well merge low population realms.

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Unfortunately they won’t do anything for the only east coast RpPvP server. They didn’t do anything to it for the Vanilla era servers.

I’m sticking it out so far (and I reckon so will my guild) but getting somewhat like another 500 players on each side would be helpful. I don’t think free transfers will work, they may have to end up merging us with Grob, but I hope that is a last case scenario, as I also love this server and don’t like the idea of joining a megaserver.

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Grobb is honestly cancer as well. It feels NOTHING like an RP-PVP server.

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Leveling an alt there, that’s my impression too. Perhaps I’m just not in the right circles though.

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I’m not sure, I tried leveling there as well. I healed a guy up who was at 1% health who told me F off and that he had it.

That was enough for me.

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So whats the solution?
Merge servers, people are mad.
Xrealm anything, people are mad.
Free xfers, people are mad.

It’s a predictable, player-made problem with a series of solutions on the horizon… the same ones they made 15 years ago. Given that this is supposed to be a “recreation” and anything they do is going to make some group upset… the most logical action is to do nothing and let it play out the way it did before. At least unless/until someone comes up with a magic bullet that makes everyone happy.

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I posted this on another forum but will re-post here:

“Blizzard loves to turn a blind eye to this issue and is becoming a crime for them to continue to collect money and force us to pay for transfers when in reality they could evaluate low population servers and come with a solution whether merge with another low pop server (other faction of course) or allow free server transfers. As of now Sulfuras has basically died with everyone transferring to Benediction (mostly) and it literally takes long hours to fill a group or even find one. It’s to the point that we log in to be there for hours to “maybe” run a single dungeon. Auction House is empty and the very minimal items available are impossible to afford. In-game GMs of course wipe their hands to the fact that they can’t solve any of this and recommend to come to the forums which a lot of times is another waste of time since Blizzard could care less as long as they are receiving the monthly subscription and extra $$ from transfers, etc. I think it’s very unfair specially when some of us have dedicated long hours of gameplay on this game we love and now it would cost a fortune to be able to transfer all the characters in said dead server. I beg Blizz to finally do something and balance the factions and servers that are hurting of this situation.”

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25% OFF on servers transfers!
ACT NOW! LOLOLOLOL

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I don’t see how anyone can possible argue that a dead server isn’t seriously detrimental to game play. Most of the game is literally unplayable as a solo player.

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Bump to merge low pops or free xfers

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bump for all the dead servers out there

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18 levek 70’s on Fairbanks at Friday at 7pm - maybe 7 of you blizzard GMs want to come through and we would have enough recommended players (by your company) to complete content.

Insane.

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Stop sitting on your hands and doing nothing, blizzard. The short sightedness in customer retention is pretty wild.

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Removing layering would have a huge benefit toward fixing the problem. If everyone in these mega servers had to wait for 10 hour queues, theyd start spreading out on lesser populated servers. Unfortunately right now there’s almost no reason NOT to play on servers like Bene, whitemane, faerlina, Grobbulus etc…

My alliance server is deviate delight and it’s super dead. If they could remove layering and then somehow fix servers to allow the minority faction in first until the online faction is 50/50 it would totally fix the problem. I know that won’t, or maybe can’t even happen lol, but it would fix it.

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It’s funny how gamers have no concept of customer service. Blizzard should not only implement this fix, but also REFUND anyone who has had to transfer services within the past 2-3 months or so as a result of their failure to act in a prompt fashion.

Oh well, Stockholm syndrome is real.

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