Disabling racials in BGs for a week would be an interesting test.
But what would be LOL WAY MORE INTERESTING LOL is that, when Blizzard posts their analysis of the data, if the data shows that Alliance still queue-up less than Horde (proportional to their percentage of the playerbase ) … oh boy, all the tears and drama and gnashing of Zoomlennial teeth. Oh yes, yes, yes!
If you want alliance to que it has to be worth it. So I’ll just ask you…How do you get the pvper with 100 of every BG mark sitting at honour cap to que up again? How do you get the PVEer who casually ques to que up more in stead of going mining or herbing?
If you think that Fear Ward was the only thing in Vanilla that Alliance had going for them, or that Arcane Torrent is the end-all of racials, I think you may be showing your lack of PVE experience. Keep in mind as well that Arcane Torrent does not work on most mobs in raids.
You can easily google the list of alliance and horde racials and see which ones of them are designed for PVE and which PVP.
If you want to remove racials, then remove them entirely.
If that’s what it takes, then that’s what it takes. End them all in everything.
They could literally reward all players with a daily badge of justice quest. That would incentivize alliance players to pvp without creating a permanent imbalance.
I think you have something mistaken. People who want to be competitive and have every advantage afforded to them are horde WHEN HORDE HAVE HAD SUPERIOR RACIALS.
When alliance got emfh in wotlk, the majority of all high end pvpers went alliance. The factions were relatively balanced until blizzard put emfh on the same cooldown as the pvp trinket, then wotf became best again and most pvpers went back horde.
In conclusion your statement of horde being full of better pvpers is right but not because of any reason other than horde always having the superior pvp racials and the best players choosing not to handicap themselves by going alliance.
Would that be enough of a bonus for horde to be willing to sit in an hour+ que so alliance doesn’t lose it’s only perceived benefit of being the instant que faction?
Why not have cross + same faction pvp and a reward for everyone to encourage pvp?
What perceived benefit should horde get for PVE? Again - perpetuating any counter imbalance for a perceived imbalance is really horrible game design and should be avoided.
NO that is lit the dumbest thing i have ever heard rofl
I can summarize all horde posts in 1 sentence.
“Fast queues means you should lose every game, long queues means we should win every game, and anything that counters that is cheating.”
You want fast ques, the perceived alliance thing, but are not willing to take a hit. So same faction ques in, but only horde racials inactive in BGs and arena then. Alliance trades one perceived benefit for another, horde trades one perceived benefit for another.
You’re assuming that the game is going to play out the same way that it did the first time. On Wrath servers, horde is still the dominant faction. Top level players are going to beat you no matter what race they’re playing. There were plenty of high ranking alliance pvp’ers when TBC was current. One of the best mages in the world was a gnome.
People that want to play competitively in at least one area of the game are likely going to choose horde. There are just so many more options available to them when it comes to pugs and guilds. As far as I’m aware, racials are pretty inconsequential in retail, and yet the best players are generally horde. This idea that horde has better players was planted into the minds of the community years ago and it’s going to be tough to break that.
Do you understand that 1 hour queues vs instant queues is not perception - that it’s reality? You don’t understand what ‘perceived’ means.
Reward everyone equally, and you will see increased participation across the board. It’s simple psychology.
Haha can u imagine the outrage that will never happen good luck tho
Looks at the arena ladder and the overwhelming undead overrepresentation
Do you understand that overpowered racials vs underpowered racials is not perception - that it’s reality? You don’t understand what ‘perceived’ means.
See how that works?
Rewarding everyone equally means racials all stay and horde keep the hour+ ques.
Totally untrue. If you rewarded everyone for pvping, the available pool of players would increase dramatically and the queue times would go down for everyone. What do you think the consequences of providing faster/more loot to alliance would be?
Offer a solution that is good for both factions. I think we all want a fix to the issues, but most people seem to be of the mentality “Fix my issue at a cost to the other faction, but don’t make a fix to replace that cost”
If everyone is going to be so rigid with this and not see it from the other factions perspective then I’ll stand by instant horde ques, but inactive horde only racials.
Using pizaros logic, the best players have always been undead, that doesn’t mean the race has any advantages. There is also 1 human in the top 50 so that means you don’t have to be undead to be good.
i have no qualms with this. At the very least it’s the best choice albeit pve and racials can be pretty determinative also. Ex the bloodelf aoe silence is great as a tank.
Easy solution is to reward all players with a bonus to incentivize PVP that is non-trivial, like a daily badge of justice quest or something.
Giving any permanent reward to a single faction to increase their player power permanently is incredibly poor game design.