Dark times for warriors

I don’t think there has ever been a time with warriors were this bad at every spec.

Fury is the meme spec dps. You get carpal tunnel from the high apm of the spec and are dead last in damage.

Prot is the meme spec of tanks

Arms spec is C tier only because condemn does 50% of our damage.

Spell reflect is not even worth having for PvE if it means it is as underwhelming as it is now. Move it back to a pvp talent where it was actually good.

Bloodthirst should have never had healing nerf. The removal of CSHB was more than enough.

Ignore pain is so detrimental to fury warriors dps it is not even worth putting on your bars.

Enrage outside of execute ranges is like 30% for fury.

Dark times indeed

Immediate fixes

Make striking the anvil baseline for arms. I think this would make it viable for people who don’t want to be venthyr

Revert beta changes for fury (excluding the rampage bug fix). Probably would put them mid pack.

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No, you do not.

I would hope you’re not dead last.

You know the fun part of memes.

They don’t have to be true.

A; Calling it C tier is rather vague.
B; It’s not C tier.
C; The other covenants, with the exception of necrolord, are nearly the same in st, and stronger in non st. So that sounds rather silly to say.

How is it everything you say is more and more ridiculous.

It really makes nearly no difference.

It’s certainly not, and if that is the case, then it explains your having such severe issues.

Hahahahahahaha.

That would make no difference. Are you joking?

I’m going to assume most of what you’re saying is just wild exaggeration. Otherwise I’m legitimately worried what you’re doing.

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idk how level 11 warriors would know thyis

Yeah its worse probably D tier bases on logs

Yeah sorry my 98 % parses put me above the tanks

Post on a main or dont comment on balance.

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Fury is literally dead last in logs.

Arms is 16th out of 24 specs. How is that middle of the pack?

Post on your main lets see my man. GJ liking your own posts btw.

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My friend Derez here is right. Though warrior isn’t the strongest at the moment it is certainly not the worst.

Arms is in a better spot, specializing in cleave and functioning as a pretty solid melee dps.

Fury is a bit weaker sure, but it’s doing alright. Could use some love.

We are hardly the worst.

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LOL so we are basing a dps class off of the 99th percentile. You are reaching man. What a joke.

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i just recently found out you can actually ignore a user on these forums!

today is a good day.

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Why would you want to. Not to turn this into another silly thread discussing derez but he knows his stuff. Take the ego out of it.

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Yes, as opposed to what?

People playing with broken arms?

if you want to compare how specs perform when they are utilized at a suboptimal level, then I’m not sure why you care about output to begin with. If you’re not concerned with optimizing output, what does it matter to you.

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https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/26/ actual logs of how warriors are doing

I’m concerned with a 11 warrior denying that warriors are struggling in the dps meters

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his attitude, can’t stand it.

firs time i had to ignore someone on here, ever.

was grinding my gears :wink:

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Why would you care about how people that are playing comparatively poorly are performing. I thought this was a back and forth based around what the specs are capable of outputting.

Why are you cherry picking a hyper successful substrata of warriors that an average player will never be able to do.

again. we know for a fact warriors are underperforming or they would not have been buffed.

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Again, fury could use some love. But this is an aggregate of overall data. Fury might succeed in a specific fight. Overall it’s not the best, but moment to moment is a different discussion. Also raid is not the only content which a class can succeed.

For instance, arms is quite strong in pvp right now. Middle of the pack in raid but still quite nice.

I’m sorry you’re frustrated, but this is not where warrior will be for the whole expansion. It’ll be fine.

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It is consistently last or right above last in dps except for venthyr fury warriors spamming condem on 4 adds on sun king

Okay, im not asking for arms to be buffed in pvp

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I don’t have much trouble personally. Also cool it on the use of the R slur. Pretty lame.

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The hell is this thread man, fury could use a dps buff yes and that pretty much it

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For real I dont know why im getting such hostile responses on something so obvious

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My statement is indicating that your use of a raid dps chart is not the sole indicator for a specs success in the game. One aspect does not a class make.

But again. I don’t disagree. It needs a buff. But I just hate the doom and gloom.

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okay should we base it off utility? Because warriors still are on the lower end of the utility spectrum.

Commanding shout is pretty strong this patch. Def does not overshadow most other classes.

My 98% normal parses did not even put me in the top 5 of dps that were in the 70-80%.