Danuser confirmed that you can't take NPCs as factual

is narrating

is narrating too

same here.

What is meant by NPC statements are texts like this one, not inner statements that were inserted especially for us readers to get a more comprehensive picture.

Like this:

By making the Alliance’s intelligence tell the wrong story , Sylvanas had said.

I take it that you’ve never read A Song of Ice and Fire? It narrates exactly like this book does, with the exception that chapters are named after the character who is narrating.

Delaryn is narrating when we hear her thoughts.
Cordressa is narrating when we hear her thoughts.

Either way? The night elves did not kill more Horde than we did Night Elves during the War of Thorns.
Nor were we murdering civilians.

i read it…four times^^

Narration encompasses a set of techniques through which the creator of the story presents their story , including: Narrative point of view: the perspective (or type of personal or non-personal “lens”) through which a story is communicated. Narrative voice: the format through which a story is communicated.

And the story is narrated through a personal lens.
Or a series of them, at least.

Of course they did.

Danuser told you not to take what NPCs say or think as fact, Zahirwrite.

We know factually from the War of Thorns event what happened because we were there to experience it. I can’t tell you what to think, but what you think doesn’t matter.

I know what happened.

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Information is first of all objective, the INTEPRETATION of an information is the subjective one.

It happens objectively:

Many dead.

Saurfang’s interpretation was: Horde lost even more than the Alliance, and that from a Horde commander with a lot of war experience, which made his statement credible and probably correct.

But the information said that the night elves killed more Horde than night elves – as well as we fought a civilian army – and that is legitimately, factually, completely, and wholly untrue.

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It becomes true because even before WOT came on, blizzard said that the extensive and even more detailed history of WOT will come in the form of two books.

So blizzard made it clear:

CANON is the book, not ingame.

I’d be interested to read this post. And even if they said it, that is true. It’s more detailed. We see how the Alliance reacted from the Alliance POV.

The events in A Good War and Elegy match up. Saurfang’s point of view makes the night elves seem even deadlier than Delaryn’s. One might argue that he’s misinformed and confused as well though. But in all likelihood, Sylvanas was given her power up in part because the Horde has no powerful characters and would get wrecked.

Saurfang’s command group continued north. A pair of troll scouts met with him. The hottest fighting was just south of Xavian, the old elven ruins that had now become a small lake. The night elves were holding strong across the river, they reported, preventing all crossings so far. Every time the Horde pushed, the night elves had let them come across the river, surrounded them, and destroyed them.

That was troubling. The kaldorei shouldn’t have had the numbers to do that in more than one place at a time.

“Very well,” Saurfang said, and he sent the scouts back into the field.

Saurfang let their information simmer in his thoughts, only half listening while his subordinates discussed options.

“Are the night elves stronger in numbers than we had anticipated?”

“If they have reinforcements, the entire strategy needs to change.”

Saurfang interrupted them. “We’re going to Xavian.” The night elves could not have the numbers they appeared to have. It was impossible. It was time to apply some pressure and prove it.

There was still a long way for the Horde to go, Saurfang reminded himself—a long way. It would require a lot of killing and dying, but the strategy that had gotten them this far would carry them all the way to the western coast.

The fighting had taken on a rhythm that the night elves could not stop. Saurfang’s armies moved forward in small groups until they faced resistance, and then they stood fast. The night elves only had the numbers to hold the line in one or two locations—Malfurion was a front all on his own, but Sylvanas was on his heels, daring him to rest long enough for her to catch him. Every other part of the offensive would push forward. If the night elves pulled back, they would be harried by Horde scouts. If they held position, they would be quickly surrounded. The Horde did not need to break the night elves’ defenses, not when they could go around them.
That made it seem clean and easy, of course. War was neither of those things.

There had been plenty of instances where Horde soldiers had pushed forward into an ambush.

Malfurion struck hard all across the Horde’s lines, killing those foolish enough to charge into battle with him. When the final numbers were tallied, there would be more slain Horde than kaldorei .

But Saurfang had anticipated that. He didn’t like it, but when you threatened an enemy’s home and invaded their land, you paid a certain price.

If this is the cost of ending the next war before it truly begins, it is worth it.

I know they match up. But they’re still character perspectives – all of them – and Danuser told us that characters are unreliable narrators.

I personally took part in the War of Thorns. I know Saurfang is wrong.

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Thank you for your concession, Zahirwrite.

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I’m not that dwarf^^

Even there they’re telling you to decide which one is right, which sets up the supposition that they’re both wrong.

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thats the most important part of the description :wink:

I disagree. The thing you quoted doesn’t suggest in any way, shape, or form that they’re objectively accurate. Meanwhile, the thing I quoted specifically does suggest they’re objectively inaccurate.

No, but both POVS are displayed and so where there is overlap…it happens objectively. Little info, the Horde’s casualties are such a match and they’ve been fighting civilians, too.

Do you know what POV means?

Point of View.

The books are about the points of view of the characters in them. That means that it isn’t an outside narrator, it’s the characters’s points of view, Zahirwrite.