I’ve always wondered why people say Shaman are dampeners.
but a spec like Arms
+highest healing reduction
+undispellable CC
+Rot from normal Rotational abilities.
+Passive quarter less damage taken
- CC reduction
- Immunities
- AoE Burst Health
+Raw 2 person Cleave
Never gets called a dampener spec
This is all aoe utility that can’t be dispelled
vs a specs that don’t have the highest throughtput be it damage or healing and has an aoe cloak that can be killed or outranged, CC that is on a CD, allows targets to move and can be dispelled by multiple Dps and healers
I will never understand how a spec that provides supplemental lockdown/distruption while having no standard pressure on their own (any shaman spec) as being just called what it is; weaker. As opposed to “oh they’re dampeners”
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who are you hanging around? arms is absolutely a dampener. it and ele/enh and sometimes boomkin/dk/dh and some iterations of warlock have played goalie for their comps for some to most of the last 12 or so seasons
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Murfy rank 1 goalie for his non dampener ret pally
But ya arms is v dampener OP, don’t let people say they aren’t.
I did some pushing this last week… it def seemed our team was more of a damp team (turbo). Just cant burst locks down and most teams have so many outs it gets old. Most of our early kills came from someone getting in a bad position, good swaps or the occasional 300+k doubble drest go (which should not be a thing)
Most matches went damp though. I dont like damp games but i love the class fantasy of war’s so guess thats what i deal with.
What expansions this warriors have been dampeners for a very long time
Shamans have a very defensive/reactive oriented toolkit. The only setup shamans have are ele hex/lasso really, everything else is just pve and stoping stuff. That’s why shamans r damp.
Although wars have bolt and fear(previously had way more), I do feel like arms has been considered damp since at least legion/BFA? The factors you listed make them often win on mana if they just outlast teams so war comps will often be tailored to do that. They had more variety pace comps before such as KFC or a more aggressive iteration of war/mage, but currently ww/arms/assa all fill the same role. They can all damp very well but only ww/assa can really run a reliable proactive setup every cc DR comp.
Ele is a true definition of glass cannon in cata/mop/bfa.
It was pretty dampener in wod/legion though