I’ve been very reluctant to playing a new class since I’ve only been playing paladin since legion launched. Finally, since ret is just as good as it was during bfa and since prot isn’t viable in pvp either I had no other option but to try another class. I ended up on dev evoker after seeing how even the best have at most 2 years exp which still leaves space to find new more min maxed ways to play it unlike paladin (the experience of the top rets is over 10 years and they all know the script behind every ability + the perfect builds by design ).
I’m only in leveling but I already can see a huge difference when leveling with ret paladins. Doing triple their dmg and out running them, muahahaha. It’s quite fun and similar to holy power with essences and rotation.
The range is the same but you get full value from being range contrary to ret losing dmg from CS when in range.
The class also has the same archetypes as paladin with a healer a dps and a support.
If anyone was looking for something to play while waiting for ret buffs or changes to their oversimplified rotation for no reason ( I miss legion ), you should try evoker !
Yea but as a pally I can tank and heal. Is sonic easier to do delves and queue for pig content as a port pally. Also pally have some of the best in game animations for their abilities
Devastation Evoker is my main alt, and I agree that the two specs are quite similar in that they both operate effectively as a mid-range fighter. However, what is keeping me off Evoker from being my main is that Devastation’s “reactive” self-healing potential is abysmal compared to Ret’s.
Verdant Embrace heals for maybe a quarter of my HP at most, Emerald Blossom is worthless, and Living Flame as a direct self-heal is pitiful. Compared to Ret’s significant throughput in off-heals with Word of Glory and Lay on Hands, I feel like I am incredibly squishy on Dev. Sure, I can pop Renewing Blaze when I know something is coming, but if I am caught unaware, my reactionary tools are slim to none.
You would think that a caster whose range is limited would have better tools to prevent and respond to attacks from mobs—especially considering that one of our main attacks as Scalecommander is Deep Breath, which necessitates us flying over mobs in melee range. Speaking of Deep Breath, why can we not have a shield or dmg reduction effect baked in or a talent option for the spell? Why is our only shield effect tied to Rescue in “Twin Guardian” when that interaction feels so gimmicky that I’ve never even wanted to use it?
Sorry for a bit of a rant there… Ultimately, if they gave Dev more self-healing potential, I would seriously consider fully maining Evoker over my Paladin. Until then, I find that I value the control I have over mine and my teammate’s HP as a Paladin more so than I do the gameplay loop on Evoker.
Well you kinda do have a 50% wall talent for deep breath. And your healing trough put is bad because your not doing it in the right order and at the right time. I played with a multiglad evoker yesterday and he was just doing better in all sphere than my ret, I had to go prot to bring some value and we were doing 2s. So I think you need to train more on evoker because even I as I’m lvling don’t see any of your issues and I do pvp skirms / bgs as I lvl.
What 50% wall talent are your referring to? I would love to get better if it’s simply a me problem.
Also, I do not pvp, so if what you are describing is in relation to that, then it’s not very applicable to my experience. I mostly do m+ and delves on my devoker.
The talent is for augmentation evoker, middle right of the tree, it takes 50% of all dmg you take while in deep breath and splits it over 10 sec afterwards.
Just saw a burst competition, every spec competing for time to kill the same player that doesn’t use defensives or healing. Many specs were in the one and a half to three second area, I think Ret was like 9 seconds. For comparison, the MW monk killed the guy three seconds faster than the Ret could at 6 seconds. Ret is pretty weak in the burst damage department, damage profile looks like a flat line that is also low.
