Dalaran Order Hall Status

There is unfortunately no more rogue order hall, but what of the other 3(?):
Mage
Warlock
Demon Hunter

I honestly forgot about the mage order hall myself and if it was more of a physical location or something that could be saved in a pocket dimension akin to the goblin magician hat. I’ll go with it being gone along with the rogue base.

For warlocks we see Ritssyn when we land in Khaz Algar. Do we know if we can easily access the order hall with a new portal ritual?

As for Demon Hunters we do not know if their floating island is perfectly fine, but I imagine we need a more reasonable portal to get to our ship.

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The warlock portal you can actually see the remains of near the crash site. The others I haven’t seen

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I now wonder what happened to the Shaman portal to the Maelstrom.

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Maybe they would have moved it to the Cataclysm portal areas in Orgrimmar and Stormwind.

Now I’m wondering about the Priest portal…
Paladins can just go to Light’s Hope Chapel

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I’m pretty sure the Mage Hall was in Dalaran’s main spire so that’s cooked, same with the Rogue one obviously.

But anything that just needed a portal to get there is presumably still accessible. Maybe I’m misremembering but I don’t recall anything about the portals themselves being unique or important.

Netherlight Temple is a Draenei prison ship somewhere in the Twisting Nether so it’s presumably still fine.

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Mage and rogue were the only ones actually in Dalaran. They are definitely destroyed.

The rest just had portals to other places so they should be fine. Though the portals are not.

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Now if they could just have destroyed Meryl Felstorm along with his stupid order hall…

The mage hall was at the top of one of the tall spires. It had a balcony that overlooked Dalaran so it was obliterated along with the other parts of the city that Xalathath wasn’t interested in.

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Yeah the actual physical location of the mage order hall is kinda strange.

If you line up key landmarks in Dalaran among other things from the balcony that looks over the city you can deduce that it is actually inside the Violet Citadel. However if you look up from the balconies the top of the citadel does not match the one in the uninstanced Legion Dalaran. It looks like some beta version.

Because of this I always found it odd that the order hall is instanced. But I guess the uninstanced Violet Citadel is too small at the upper levels to contain the order hall proper.

Reminds me of where Blackwing Decent is lore wise. Find it funny that the entrance portal to that raid is on the other side of Blackrock Mountain AND on a completely different elevation. Imagine how many flights of stairs Neferian’s minions had to run up from the decent into the outdoor Spire Throne Room during his vanilla encounter.

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the DH order hall was the Felhammer Legion ship. It should be fine.

I wonder if we’ll ever be explicitly told, given how little either group matters.

The Tirisgarde have a fundamental narrative problem, which is that the role of “Neutral Mages who show up like superheroes to solve the world’s problems” is one that the Kirin Tor has already been crowbarred into. There’s simply too much overlap, especially now that Dalaran is gone and the Kirin Tor no longer has to also be a government.

The Uncrowned were an incoherent idea from the jump, they’re unlikely to appear again beyond the occasional mention that they’re working behind to scenes to do something vaguely helpful.

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While the physical location of the Tirisgarde is cooked, there’s a bunch of characters in it who are definitely officially still alive (like, obviously, Aethas who is helping with rescue operations since the start of the expansion)

And at least some who will likely turn up for various reasons ranging from “they might not have been in Dalaran” to “it’s funnier that way” (like the archivist who didn’t realize he died to begin with)

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It’s been a long time and I kinda hated the campaign so I don’t remember it too clearly … but … I thought the Tirisgarde was more of a Dalaran-centric organization than a worldwide one? Like Dalaran’s internal mage police?

(Also, what do you mean by saying the Kirin Tor has been “crowbarred into” the role of neutral mages who solve worldwide problems? If it’s not them, then who would it be instead? Or do you think such an organization never existed/shouldn’t exist?)

A lot of players convinced themselves the setting is allowed to have nothing and no one who isn’t swallowed up by the factions, much like how ostensibly independent groups (like the elven nations at the end of TFT) had to be sanded down to becoming mere members of the superpower factions (and forget that their leaders were about ready to give their lives for each other about 5 minutes before, in the case of the elves).

The Uncrowned were also a startling idea. The Queen of Gilneas and 3/5ths of the Desolate Council are part of the Rogue Illuminati and they’ve ties to pretty much every other institute in WoW.

They just introduce a genuine deep state into the plot then forgot about.

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The Uncrowned are why the Horde helped the Alliance get back Gilneas

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More than likely he feels that it shoud be an Alliance only group the way it was loosely associated with the Alliance in the RTS. Suramar could be the basis for a Horde counterpart.

They apparently didn’t forget about it since if you’re a rogue and talk to Marin Noggenfogger in Undermine he’ll make mention of it.

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No to “Horde counterparts.” I don’t want to be inferior and vaguely evil.

I don’t see how Suramar is anything but far superior than what Dalaran was.

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