Cyrces Circlet Ring

Worth getting for pvp?

I’m not getting it lol.

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Seems worth playing on a lot of stuff. Just gotta see how much of your breakdown it is.

Shadow priest maybe?

Does it proc off poisons/bleeds? I haven’t played around with it too much, might toss it on and do a few BGs.

doesn’t seem worth it on most specs that get a lot of out mastery

for me on enhancement with it on i have about 41% mastery
without it on i have about 57% mastery

it does roughly 6-12% of my damage (12% being VERY rare top end)
think it goes without saying 15% mastery all the time with no conditions or rng out performs it by a pretty significant margin

i’d have to assume things like deathknight function similarly, but things like outlaw rogue probably get a ton of value from the ring

from what i hear it does not proc off dots/bleeds

haven’t confirmed that myself but just heard in conversation from a spriest whos pretty aware and also PvEs

It seems like bleeds and stuff aren’t really proccing it often. My rogue is saying its the equiv of an authority enchant for him.

Things like WW though are smashing it out, prob jsut from the sheer amount of nonsense proccing all at once.

If you play Outlaw then yes 100%, it’s one of the specs that benefits the most from it.

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Are you saying that the ring loses you 16% mastery?

I dont believe that. On my DH it’s maybe 8% and DH scales really well with mastery.

Lets set that aside for a second though and say you do have 16% more mastery without the ring.

16% mastery is not 16% overall damage.

E.g.
100K damage baseline:
41% mastery makes it 141K
57% mastery makes it 157K

That is a 11% increase overall for just mastery. (I am assuming mastery is just a straight dmg multiplier for all abilities as enhancement)

But with procs from a ring that does 8-12% overall damage. That is 152k-158K

So pretty close honestly. But, i would double check your mastery in pvp combat, the difference seems too high to me.

Something else to remember is dmg allocation

Vers/Mastery making all my buttons do 10% more dmg at all times is probably better than random procs doing 13% more randomly exp to off targets and pets

Outlaw the number 1 reason its gna be nerfed

short hand sort of

not directly but i lose enough either vers or haste paired with about 9% mastery that i then reallocate other sources of mastery to vers or haste to mitigate the loss totaling out to a loss of about 15.5 mastery

and yeah it increases basically every damage source except stormstrike

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Yeah on my DH i lose about 4% vers and 8% mastery. I dont think it matters too much either way. Shooting the occasional lighting bolt with my throwing knives on my rogue is good fun but RNG is RNG.

at about 630 pvp ilvl on a arms warrior, the Circlet with 3 damage gems in it (ones that purely proc damage), gives me 15-19 percent of my overall damage in a 1 to 2+ minute round.
It seems worth it.

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I think the biggest question for me is if the gems scale with Ilvl

Stam is one thing but if those gems get 20ilvls worth of power on top of it then I can’t see them not being worth it

I think it’s probably worth grabbing at 660 for some matchups just for the stam alone

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They must, otherwise the ring wouldn’t get stronger in PVE.

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