Current profession system is bad. I am not only talking about there is literally no public orders.
Even the stuff that sells on the AH is selling for a loss. Even if you got maxed profession in one area it is still impossible to get a rank 3 every time. Anything below a rank 3 is literally vendor trash.
In 11.0 go back to the old way. For crafted mythic gear. Have crafters make a base gear that sells on the AH and have the crests be able to slot in by the players.
And when there are public WO’s - its people posting with only the soulbound materials and not enough gold to cover the cost of buying things.
At least for me, the reason I hate posting Public WO’s for most things, is that I can’t ensure I get the quality I want. So its just me spamming trade chat hoping I get someone whose able to do it.
I remember being annoyed when, on my JC alt, I got my JC profession up to 100 but could still only 2 star (maybe 3 star) most things. I’ve gotten the hang of it since, but it kind of feels ridiculous to reach max level and not be able to do much with it…
EDIT to add: Overall, now that I’ve learned the system and gotten used to it, I do overall enjoy it. Just find it annoyingly complicated at times. The more I use it tho, the less annoyingly complicated it is though.
I disagree. I find it quite engaging and am glad that professions were shifted more into a pillar than a sideshow.
You’re only capped at four orders max with a slow recharge rate. You should be putting yourself out there and filling personal orders instead 
The Auction House will always be weird at times. With that said, I find decent profit margins with the items I craft and sell, so I do not share your experience.
Are we talking about gems and enchants with this? I do understand the frustration with this, although you are in control a little more than this suggests.
That is quite an exaggeration.
We have the old way for many items. You can craft and sell on the AH as usual with those.
We had something like this in Shadowlands with legendaries. Do you want to go back to paying 200k for a piece that you change out every patch? I’m fine cancelscanning all day long to rake in millions again, but I’m not sure most people would powerful gear behind an SL-like system again.
there are orders up almost constantly on the two high pop/full servers I have watching - unfortunately most of them without mats and with 5 gold commission.
I have been getting far more orders since the greedy person on my server went to play D4 so all it takes is one person to ruin things.
Im amazed people attempt this.
I put up a public order with all mats and 250-1k commission. Gets filled within minutes.
Ive tipped upwards of 5k for personals when someones been willing to try and try again to make it a rank 5
I’ve made so much gold with the new professions
I’m a big fan
I hate the new system.
I grinded the new system every day since launch until the first patch. Then I was done.
I never maxed my profession. Back then the WO would be snipped as soon as they were posted. I did manage to get a couple but that was sheer luck. The new WO model with no mats and paltry commissions is stupid. The least the new system should do is fill the missing mats with what can be acquired from the AH automagically and charge the requester on the spot for it.
I hate that the new profession system still has a trickle of knowledge points. It was such a crappy grind that I just stopped doing it.
It’s like when DF launched they said hey! We listened! No new systems*! … … … oh … you crafters we updated crafting! It’s great! You’ll love it! … and this is what we have now. Systems make it so we can’t have nice things.
I think they are getting some of them filled - people don’t realize they are posting stuff they can sell on the AH for 200 to 10,000 gold.
You seem to be upset with Public Orders, which is understandable, but have you tried filling Personal Orders instead?
It depends on your perspective. I viewed it as progression.
I’m fairly certain this was in reference to borrowed power. A new profession system has nothing to do with that.
The profession system is a nice thing though.
No, I have a problem with WO and the new profession system.
And Lol. Yes. I mastered the art of sending private orders to my alts on day 2.
The trickle of points with no catch up mechanism is horrible game design. The way the points can be acquired, as implemented, limits what you can accomplish each week - effectively artificially gating completion.
So, yes, this is a bad system for profession progression.
The issue with spamming trade chat is that it goes 100mph. I prefer to post auctions for 12 hours and that’s all.
I am lucky that I sell crafted transmog and that keeps me afloat but that might go away in a week with being able to sell stuff across server.
I don’t know if its worth pursuing a profession on any of my alts. The kps are heavily time gated, and those kps are what make the profession worth it. I can just buy anything else I need at this point, unless you want the little perks for the dungeons, which don’t require high lvl, I don’t think, thats about the only other reason. No catch up mechanic for them, and I’m only willing to farm for so many hours.
Heard people were trying this with the bags. What are the bags going for nowadays?
Bags and bolts and hides and toys and most anything you can sell on the AH. I have no idea what bags are selling for right now.
Big tru. I really despise the state of professions.
Professions suck for me. Wasn’t worth the trouble. First time in over 15 years I didn’t sell crafted gear on AH.
If it only works for a few then it is a bad system. If majority are enjoying it then it is a good system. You can make your own decision if it is good or bad.
The new system is much better than the old one but not without flaws.
Pros:
Adds progression for people who see professions as an “end game.”
No longer need to use the old trade interface to have something personally crafted.
Adds resilience to scammers to personal crafts.
Cons:
Public orders are a trainwreck.
Higher learning curve to get something crafted.
Need to do outside research before crafting in game to not waste materials.
My opinion on it, it is a better system but I still hate interfacing with it. I could go without professions in an MMO altogether unless a game company thinks of a way to massively overhaul the way they work.
My biggest problem with the current profession system is its reliance on work orders to progress. Literally, once the initial rush dries up, work orders vanish (especially for the likes of Engineering).
So, unless you have alts (with sparks) for personal orders, the leveling professions feels like you’re wasting time at higher levels as you can’t even sell what you make on the AH!
The only thing i dislike about the current system is, some professions have it way easier, than others. I’ll give an example.
LW Vs BS: I cant even craft a 424 with an embelishment as a LWER without an insight to make it 100%. As a blacksmith i can craft 447 weapons 100% with r3 mats. +skill wise need to be equalize across all professions
The only thing I dislike is profession knowledge. I’m not a fan of timegated drip fed progression. It discourages me from changing professions or giving them to alts.
What I would’ve done is rewarding knowledge every level of skill up, so at max skill level you get to arrange your knowledge points and then forget about it.