During P2 you could use tank rune/weap enchant and pack max AP that was then converted into +damage AND heal. You basically were a tank, a melee and a heal all at the same time so of course it had to be nerfed. The issue is that it took the devs so long to nerf it that you got used to it and now you feel useless without it when your class still has all those tools. It’s just that you can’t have them all at the same time.
I faced some enhance in BG who could deal as much damage to me as I dealt to them on my paladin. And I’m R13, nearly full T2 and got some of the best end game weapon so I don’t really buy into the wet noodle damage story.
Unless you’re a fresh ding 60 but given how often you post I’d say you’re probably clearing BWL consistently.
Plz give some context here. You’re leveling ? full green gear around level 40 and struggle against normal mobs ? It’s normal for most melee classes. I have a warrior and a rogue lvl 35+ and it’s often a struggle to kill mobs my level. Most probably because they buffed the mobs damage to fit the players who were full bis BFD/Gnomer/ST.
If you are max level and somewhat geared there is no way you struggle against 2 mobs.
At the moment, I’m level 50 on my Enhance Shaman with Sunken Temple gear (w/ST fist weps) and I’m struggling as a leveler in the places I should be leveling at. Whether it be Searing Gorge, Un’Goro, W. Plagues, and I even struggle against some quests in STV still with the Buc Pirates and the Zanzil Elixir mobs.
Now do it on a warrior without any raid gear… I had to grind on green mobs that were so far below me, every time I leveled I had to move to another area.
nowadays enh doesnt hit hard at all and is one of the squishiest specs in the game while gaining nothing from that squishyness and lack of any real hard cc.
healing was enh main defensive as they have to eat all that damage that they dont catch with grounding or decoy and are often cced to death long before they even get on a target.
their damage is nowhere near a pallys damage in terms of burst cause theyve gotten nerf after nerf and people have lost that fear of an enh shaman on them cause there is very little to fear.
but you wouldnt know that cause you guys all lump shaman into some 31/31/31 spec with all their runes available at the same time mostly and then proceed to pontificate on how shaman are fine when clearly they are not at least in terms of pve performance and enh spec sucks donkey turds in pvp.
Shamans were gods in P2-4, fair. They have been gutted. Meanwhile, pallies, rogues, and druids have been broken since P1 continuously. Current state of pallies and boomies is just ridiculous.
It’s a big problem. Enh shamans used to hit hard and have some healing for survivability. This seemed fair given their squishiness. Now, however, they don’t hit very hard and have virtually zero survivability since the Maelstrom nerf. You get more than 1 mob on you, you’re in trouble. They are so mana deprived too. Enh shamans have all of their squishiness with none of their burst or self-healing.
To have a constructive discussion around you Shamans it seems we all have to be specific about both the specc and the runes that needs buffs/nerfs considering most Shamans, or most players will use the specc and runes that are most optimal/broken, right? That does not mean you do that, but most do. The Complaints is regarding 90% of the Shamans we play against in PvP. If you want to discuss your build with different runes then be specific about it and realise we arent complaining about a specc or runes that almost no Shaman is using. how is this not clear?
This is what happens when you get to comfortable with being insanely op then getting a slight nerf. They all scatter to the next meta dps. Funny thing is shaman are still the most OP class in all of sod and will be hopefully getting even more nerfs. Shaman is supposed to be in raid for one reason only. To drop a totem for the melee and thats it. You play for the totems that other classes need! It’s a support class and should only be able to support. The fact they can still take down 4-5 people at a time with basic green and pre bis gear is insane. Nerf shamans more please this is the reason people are quitting. Once shaman is gutted maybe then people will return to the least played current version of wow…until then we are all playing war within and cata! Would love to come back just let us know when you nerf shamans please and thanks! Hope you have a great day Proxyminers
tell me please then what spec/runes people are all playing as on shaman somehow as a monolith are all playing?
moreover can you honestly say you know what spec/runes like every shaman is using?
or is it guesswork ?
i can tell , cause i play a shaman in several specs and can say that i know more than some random shaman nerf caller .
let me guess though, its a tank/ele shaman using way of earth and shield mastery and power surge and lava burst thats giving you trouble.
ive said tank specs in pvp (all of them) are too durable while still putting out good enough damage to kill you before you kill them.
i dont know the solution to this though that doesnt nuke pve and any fun that tank specs would have at all.
if its regular enh , i can safely say they suck bad right now.
standard enh hits very weakly even in burst windows. in bgs people have alot more health and even the slot machine of enh with windfury procs and crits is lessened to the point of being non threatening hardly at all.
many other classes outstrip even the slot machine aspect of enh shaman almost naturally.
but please try and get me on the “but we are talking about most shaman” as if they were a monolith and there is a true consensus .
Shams were not even S tier so there was no reason for them to get nerfed like this. It was all the nonstop forum threads made by people who spam posted demanding nerfs many of which were made by the same few posters. Boomkins are more powerful now than shamans ever were and no one is asking for them to be nerfed.
Shams go back to being near top and top in regular 60 PvP and boomkins go straight to the bottom.
He is playing a tank/ele build that is beyond weak against casters. If he played 100% ele or Enh… he wouldnt be as tanky. You couldn’t pay me to pay that spec its super boring. Ehn needs love just not phase 2 loving. lol And frankly… they shouldn’t have falling off too far behind Paladins.
I would love to play 2hn Ehn. I might as well play frost mage. lol
They are weak versus casters… you cant block spells and get mana back. Getting attacking to melee makes the build work. He gets mana back when he blocks otherwise he will run out of mana purging, shocking.
