Cross realm pvp

Can someone please explain to me why you will be able to cross realm queue arenas and bg’s but for some reason, raids and dungeons are off the table? Makes absolutely no sense… It would make the game so much better… People wouldn’t care as much about what server they were on, and maybe, just maybe, they would be willing to transfer somewhere else to avoid login queues…

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pvpers cant get queues, you can raid no problem

Sure, I can explain it.

When it comes to leveling, dungeons are entirely superfluous. But when it comes to getting honor, BGs are pretty necessary.
Arena, whether intended or not, is basically the endgame of PvP, and you can’t do it unless other teams are also queueing. When you do a dungeon, you don’t need to wait for the mobs inside to also queue. You can also realistically run a dungeon with less than 5 people, but that’s not realistic with arenas and BGs.

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Maybe this will lead to rdf… but probably not since the powers that be at Blizzard seem pretty stupid sometimes…

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I guess my main point is with this change, theyve showed us that its technologically possible, they’re willing to do it, so why not do it for all content? At this point there isnt a good reason why you Shouldnt turn it on for Raids and dungeons as well… It would solve a big problem that we have where some people who were dumb enough to take the free transfers off the megaservers, are now struggling to find groups for anything… If they could just raid or do a dungeon cross realm with people on the megaservers, they might actually… you know… enjoy the game again? Just a thought…

But you’re not required to do bgs in wow, you can still play the game without that….

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His reasoning for not wanting to turn it on for raids and dungeons is that its technically possible to run a dungeon or raid by yourself, therefore… just go do it by yourself bro… Massive brain I tell you what

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Pre-classic release cross-realms bgs were highly controversial and it’s a massive shame we had them on launch. It’s sadly infeasible to correct this error now thanks to blizzards negligence on faction balance.

For rated pvp cross-realm is a necessary evil. In a competitive scene your rating necessarily matters little the smaller your pool of opponents is.

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What about all that WPvP happening at Summoning Stones? Surely there’s enough there.

Except, you know, 2s and 3s.


It also amazes me that people fail to remember that BGs weren’t always cross-realm, and we still managed to do them.

Surely not. wtf? You could camp a summon stone for 24 hours straight and maybe get 1/4 of the honor you’d get from a single BG.

Why pretend to miss the point? Isn’t that like admitting you’re wrong? What are the odds of winning a 2v2 match with one person? What about a 3v3 match with 2 people? You can’t realistically do these without the full number of people. But you can definitely do 5 man dungeons with less than 5 people.

Seriously, wtf are you talking about? BGs have been cross realm since vanilla. And they made it so because it needed it.

Yeah, I was being sarcastic. PvP at summoning stones is one of the reasons certain people want RDF’s teleport feature out.

Go back into the patch notes of Vanilla - they weren’t always cross-realm.

Yeah, it only took halfway through the first iteration of the game for the devs to realize the necessity. Are you just agreeing with me? I’m not even sure what point you’re trying to make.

No, I’m not agreeing with you. I’m saying that PvP wasn’t always cross-realm, and we still somehow managed to do it during that time.

PvP doesn’t need to be cross-realm. It’s nice to have, but it’s not necessary.

How do you do arena without Resilience off-sets from BG’s honor you idiot.

Obviously people weren’t “managing to do it” very well or they wouldn’t have made the change. I’m not sure how to engage with someone who doesn’t accept reality. cross realm PvP is def a necessity.

I said we managed to do it - I never said we did very well.

Why is that? Because players on the lopsided-faction servers would have a hard time participating? What about the low-population servers? In the same way those players may have trouble finding groups for dungeons?

You can do arenas without resilience gear though. Also you don’t need to do arenas.

I’m mostly joking here, but this is basically what people have been saying about dungeons while leveling, you don’t need to do them…

You can also purchase Resilience gear from the Auction House.

Because there’s a large subset of the WoW population, which includes the developers, that think that PvE content is only fun when you have to struggle to find people to play with.

PvP though? They need every barrier to groups removed!

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I don’t understand why you people aren’t playing retail. The WOTLKC forums are literally just people begging for retail day in day out while simultaneously acting like their somehow better than retail players rofl