Crest Acquisition Improvements Coming Next Week in 11.0.7

[Vhx-black-dragonflight]

@Kaivax

In next week’s update, Siren Isle patch 11.0.7, we will make several adjustments to the availability of Gilded Harbinger Crests and to the acquisition of all Crest types through Mythic+ dungeons.

Your posts using S1 names makes it seem like you’re going to revert back to 12 for completion, 5 for depletion in future seasons. That would just be crazy silly.

[Cäpslöck-proudmoore]

@Zenith-malganis

Either deplete the key or reduce crests on a fail, not both.

If they remove depletion, crests for fail goes to 0.

[Malgorok-zuljin]

Im aware

I mean the upgrading since I had over 1000 of each of the bottom 2 crests lol, woulda got way more gilded at 45 per conversion

[Furfoxsake-chogall]

@Zenith-malganis

I literally bought a nascent gilded last night.

Yup, literally sent out a guild order for a staff last night. Would have been able to also craft a belt on my monk if this was in place or announced more than a few business days before the change went live.

[Akariliselle-cenarion-circle]

These look like some useful changes.

[Kiyoko-ravenholdt]

@Kaivax

Number of Gilded Harbinger Crests needed to purchase a Nascent Gilded Harbinger Crest reduced to 60 (was 90).

Why is it cheaper to upgrade make a 636 piece than to actually upgrade, that makes little sense. Is this intended to be only for people who have the achievement providing a discount?

[Arithawn-stormrage (Arithawn)]

@Kaivax

In next week’s update, Siren Isle patch 11.0.7, we will make several adjustments to the availability of Gilded Harbinger Crests and to the acquisition of all Crest types through Mythic+ dungeons.

They’re just gonna complain about valorstones now.

[Menzies-moon-guard]

Good changes. Now more people will be willing to finish bricked keys. Getting 5 crests is an absolute joke.

[Dowof-bloodhoof]

@Arithawn-stormrage

They’re just gonna complain about valorstones now.

We’ve been complaining about valorstones / flightstones since dragonflight so that’s nothing new haha

[Cäpslöck-proudmoore]

Well, blizzard did nothing to address the concern of crests railroading you into M+ (if anything, they made it worse).

[Katzi-dalaran]

SAME cries

lol

[Dojacàt-moon-guard]

@Kaivax

In next week’s update, Siren Isle patch 11.0.7, we will make several adjustments to the availability of Gilded Harbinger Crests and to the acquisition of all Crest types through Mythic+ dungeons.

Gilded Crests and Mythic-track gear represent the pinnacle of available gear from a Season, and are meant to be rare, but we have seen feedback that both the availability of these Crests and the costs of crafting top-tier gear fell prohibitive.

Changes

• Currency rewards from Mythic+ dungeons (Crests, Gold, Valorstones) now scale by keystone level, and completing a keystone outside of the timer now always deducts 4 Crests.

Difficulty	Crest Type	# Dropped, Timer Beaten	# Dropped, Timer Expired
Heroic	Weathered	10	n/a
Mythic	Carved	10	n/a
+2	Carved	12	8
+3	Carved	14	10
+4	Runed	12	8
+5	Runed	14	10
+6	Runed	16	12
+7	Runed	18	14
+8	Gilded	12	8
+9	Gilded	14	10
+10	Gilded	16	12
+11	Gilded	18	14
+12	Gilded	20	16

• Number of Gilded Harbinger Crests needed to purchase a Nascent Gilded Harbinger Crest reduced to 60 (was 90).
• Number of Harbinger Crests needed to purchase trade-up bags reduced to 45 (was 90).
• Harbinger of the Gilded achievement now requires item level 636 in every slot (was 639).

For players who are functionally finished with their gearing journey, the bar for the Harbinger of the Gilded achievement has been a bit too high, precluding the use of crafted gear and requiring luck to fill every slot. Lowering the threshold from item level 639 to 636 should add a little more flexibility and ensure that players who are completing the hardest content feel they can unlock the final Warband discount.

The changes to Crests awarded from Mythic+ have two main aims:

1. Ideally, challenge and reward should be directly correlated. Until now, players whose primary goal was optimizing Crest income were incentivized to run the lowest difficulty that awarded their desired Crest type, even if they were capable of completing much more challenging content. This had the secondary effect of making it much harder for players just entering the Gilded range to find groups for Mythic 8 keys, because they were often competing for slots with players who really belong in 10s, 12s, or even higher.
2. While it is important for all members of a Mythic+ group to have a shared interest in finishing a dungeon within the timer (rather than just the key-holder), dropping from a reward of 12 Crests down to 5 Crests when the timer was missed felt overly punitive. Currently in patch 11.0.5, for example, a group who fails to beat the timer in a Mythic +7 will receive more Crests for their effort than a group who crushes the timer in a Mythic +4.

We hope that a difference of 4 Crests strikes a better balance of incentivizing group effort, while still feeling rewarding.

Our goal with these changes is to help players who are attempting to push into the upper echelons of content, as well as those who have alts they’re looking to gear up to match the progress of their mains.

Thank you for all the feedback that helped shape these changes, and as always, we’ll be following closely to see how this reward structure plays out in 11.0.7.

How many times can a player leave a m+ run before they catch a suspension/ban? Are emergencies n other unforeseen circumstances an exception all of the time? Why is it okay to kick someone from a m+ run but not leave?

All these questions that won’t be addressed, n more!

[Kiyoko-ravenholdt]

That’d be logical, but Blizzard just decided that bricking keys needed to be more rewarding so idk

[Zoumz-zuljin (Zoumz)]

The crests scaling changes with M+ levels is amazing, making crests drop more from higher difficulties I feel make this much better.

The crafting change is a bit dubious unless you consider that it should be unlocking after you unlock the 636 achievement? As then the cost to upgrade would be half by 50% which makes sense then to reduce crafting by 50%? Removing this from the start doesn’t seem to add up to me.

Making it so you can turn 45 crests to 15 of a higher crest also doesn’t seem to make sense when on one part you keep saying that players should do harder content to get better rewards by removing valor in favor of the crests system. If by any point you can run a content around 3 times faster and it’s easier then it will be worth to do that content way more than to do those higher difficulties.

[Shadygrove-draenor]

Make them account bound or delete them. You are either capped or starved, no in between.

[Zitaska-aerie-peak]

@Cäpslöck-proudmoore

Are you going to extend that to raiding?

Or is M+ the only content that’s allowed to be a crest farm?

Pretty wild that bricking a 7 will give you 14 Runed lol.

[Akariliselle-cenarion-circle]

My guess is that it was 90 because of the higher ilevel jump. In DF S4, the enchanted aspect crest (60 crests) only gave 10 ilevels over the wyrm version. That’s 6 crests per ilevel.

In TWW, the 90 crests gave a 17 ilevel boost which is something like 5.2 crests per ilevel. That’s actually a better ratio.

This change will make it almost twice as good as the equivalent in DF.

[Paeldryth-hyjal (Paeldryth)]

The last 2 heroic bosses dropping 30 crests was very nice actually.

[Cäpslöck-proudmoore]

@Akariliselle-cenarion-circle

In DF S4, the enchanted aspect crest (60 crests) only gave 10 ilevels over the wyrm version. That’s 6 crests per ilevel.

in DF S4, it was 60 for myth 3. now, it was then changed to 90 for myth 5. So they increased both the power and the cost by a flat 2 levels.

[Angrydogs-area-52]

Too little, too late.

If this remains going forwards in 11.1 maybe it’ll keep the season alive longer-- all my friends have already quit until next patch.