Creation Catalyst: Open For Errors

Things you need to know ahead of time…

It needs a do-over feature… you might want to do it on the PTR before doing it on the live server.

For me, it didn’t work out.

If you have one piece, it would help, although not entirely. It lists the pieces that are eligible for set bonus.

A second problem arises from the names of pieces does not say which slot they go in. You’ll probably have to google the names to see which slot they go in.

Casque (?)
Epaulettes (shoulders probably)
Robes (chest? Plate Class)
Plackart (?)
Gauntlets (hands)

It would have been preferable for items to retain their stats and count towards set bonus count, instead.

This is on the account of double legendary and the limitation on which slots you can use.

It’s just a mish-mash of 2 - 3 systems (legendaries, set-bonus and Covenant conduits)

It’s such complete “manure”.

It seems to have been put together by people who don’t really know how to play World of Warcraft. They might be insulted, because they even know they don’t know.

Most of my gear is haste/mastery. I converted a crit/haste boot to versa/haste, but it turned out boots are transmog only.

Waste of Creation Catalyst. All I got back was a transmog.

Maybe it is preferable to limit to currency rather than weekly.

1 Like

Sounds like you didn’t ready any of the information published (by Blizz on this forum) about how the Catalyst would work.

Items are converted directly to tier gear. Not to items with tier-like abilities. However, any tertiary stats remain. I had a helm with Avoidance on it, so I went with that.

And, yeah, sometimes the stats aren’t ideal But the tier bonus is supposed to transcend even ilvl in most cases.

It sounds like you just didn’t do enough research.

In any case, this is week one, and SL will be around for a good long time. Don’t sweat it too much.

9 Likes

Those are all names of actual real world armor pieces. Honestly if you’ve been playing this game for as long as your achievement count suggests, you should kind of already know the majority of those terms as many armor pieces in this game throughout the decades have used those names.

That and a quick mouseover will straight up TELL you what slot they go in. Which you should be using a mouseover check before you craft the piece anyway just to make sure it’s what you want.

4 Likes

Reading would not have been enough. You would have to experience some of it to understand it.

It does not address the main problems, it conflicts with legendaries for slot space. Set-bonus items are inflexible and changing legendaries is very expensive.

Even if there was a system for complete refund of materials for legendaries, moving to another slot would mean buying more base components (most expensive part).

It’s just a mish-mash of a gear system and a lot of aggravation.

1 Like

Head
Shoulders
Chest
Legs
Hands

Those are the pieces that give tier set bonuses.

2 Likes

It needed to use the existing upgrade item interface that shows you the items side by side with cost and how much currency you have.

Not two icons with a button.

Most of the players don’t go to the forums or read wowhead articles. It’s really hard to un-know things and see how easy this will be for people to screw up. I’ve skimmed the the article a couple of times and didn’t know there are additional set items that aren’t part of the “set.” Let alone that it could be used to make mogs.

Why can it even be used to do that? Why have set items that aren’t part of the set? Why not use the more clear and existing item upgrade interface.

For someone that just hears in guild chat that they will be able to make tier gear today I can see this being a lot more common than it should be.

1 Like

That’s not true. I had zero experience with the catalyst creation. I barely even knew what it did.

I put my waist in, saw it didn’t have a bonus, so I took it out. Then I put my chest in, saw it did have the bonus, and I converted it.

If you were unfamiliar with what it was, you should have taken your time and actually paid a modicum of attention. If you didn’t, that’s on you.

7 Likes

Am I the only one baffled by both the amount of problems and types of problems people are having with the Catalyst? It’s pretty simple. Put in a piece of gear, it shows you what you would get back. Make your decision. There’s really nothing more to it.

4 Likes

This is the first time Blizzard has ever given us a method of turning regular gear into Tier gear, and the prices are so inexpensive that anyone who’s been in ZM a week can afford to convert an item.

And you’ve still found something to complain about.

I shouldn’t be as amazed as I am.

3 Likes

Some of the items are only part of the transmog-set (all pieces), but not part of the bonus-set (only 5 pieces). You would have to know ahead of time which pieces are part of the bonus-set and the names that were picked out are not helpful on some of them.

Some people must have lucked out and claiming it’s not a problem. I suspect they might have been involved with this “manure” the way they defend it.

1 Like

You get to see exactly what you are getting before you hit the accept button

2 Likes

It’s the same slot as the item you put in. Yeesh.

How this is so hard for people I have no clue and it’s hurting my brain…

2 Likes

This is just proof you don’t understand what you read.

The names don’t tell you which slots you need to focus on for the bonus set.

You have no clue and your brain hurts.

First time users will probably have some problems with it.

It’s been helm, chest, shoulders, legs and hands since TBC. There was an article released by Blizzard to ensure that no mistakes would be made. If you mouse over the item preview, it shows if it’s part of the bonuses. Literal PEBKAC errors.

1 Like

They do have a point though it definitely tells you if theres a bonus before you ever hit accept.

1 Like

if it shows a bonus on the icon of the item you’re going to make, it has a bonus. if not, it doesn’t.

if you put shoulders in, you get shoulders out.

this really isn’t complicated.

1 Like

In this game the only research I should ever have to do is boss fights. If I have to read extended research on a system then maybe that system was implemented poorly to start with.

If you would like reference to a gear system that worked well then look at how gear/emblems to purchase gear work in ICC. It made since and was to the point.

You have to know:

  • Tier sets have have items that aren’t part of the tier set
  • The system will upgrade items that aren’t part of the tier set
  • You have to roll over the item to see what you get
  • The rollover info is how you tell if it has tier set abilities or it’s just a transmog if it lacks tier set info.

All of that info is external to the game.

So for someone that just plays the game and thinks the system is for making tier sets, they get the quest, go to the upgrade terminal, it gives them a selected list of items that can be upgraded, they upgrade one, they find out it was just a transmog upgrade.

The same pieces that gave us tier bonuses from the raid that’s been out for weeks. The same pieces that gave us tier bonuses for over a decade now. The same pieces Blizz specifically told us are the only ones that carry the set bonus.

I just don’t understand how people are messing this up. The Catalyst itself specifically shows you what you get.

It does show you the items side by side.

3 Likes