Creating DH Should come with warning

Classes Demon Hunter
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As a returning player to SL from Legion I’m highly annoyed by the lack of complexity with Havoc spec. I feel robbed of my time and effort gearing towards 215ilvl.

It’s as if hard mode has been enabled.

Glass cannon without the cannon.
All the twists and leaps and ground slams and turning into a giant demon hunting hulk.

But wheres the damage?

Spamming chaos strike/anhilation in metamorphosis at 0.13sec per press. It looks cool but where’s the damage?

Our best legendary has a 30% chance to make a mediocre damage ability do slightly more damage. -> Still no damage.

Consider yourself lucky to have CT proc once every 4-5 Blade dances. Oh wait it proc’d.
Shame I just blew all my CD and fury trying to keep up with hunters pet in DPS.

You guessed it, once again. No damage.

Now, I parse 90-98% Heroic.
Have most BiS items.
Mythic +10 daily
Crit @ 16%
Haste @ 20%
Mastery @ 22%
Vert @ 20%

Amount of actions required for me to break 1million DPS on Heroic Hungering for example, twice as many as anyone else in the raid group.
While being the squishiest little bee at the beehive banquet.

To sum it up.

It is simply not worth the effort to waste time gearing a Havoc in shadowlands. It’s dead.
The character creation screen needs to come with a disclaimer.

"Playing this class as havoc will reduce chance of being invited to endgame group content by 80%. You have no survivability, we removed that. Forget about PVP. It sucks for you. Mythic keys, sure but don’t get hit by anything as you will surely die. Oh and finally.

Press 3 buttons do no damage.

WHAT I WANT

A clear statement by blizz to address what most of us havoc junkies want to know.

  1. Do you plan on improving DH’s only dps spec throughout Shadowlands

  2. Do you plan on doing nothing.

This would save me and alot of people time, as it would give us an opportunity to just reroll as hunters and unholy. Farm a dungeon get our BIS and out dps our Havoc brotherin while being 20-30 ilvls lower.

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Just re-roll.

Also:

Before you do re-roll, please offer me some tips on how to break 1 mil dps. I’m nowhere near that figure.

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That metaphor lmao we really are like furious little buzzing bees in dungeons and raids.

Very well written post. Hopefully we get our mojo back: conduits, legendaries, another baby buff. I can’t hope for much else before the next big patch. But I like this spec too much to reroll.

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I haven’t played for a week cause of my 30day I got, but I hadn’t had a problem keeping up with hunters or anyone else in damage in raid, and certainly not in m+

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I’m gonna need a block of cheese with all that whine. DH single target is low still, but we’re ok otherwise in PvE content. Can’t speak for PvP because who cares about PvP balance.

Also if you don’t like the CT legendary, just play CA. It will be more consistent and isn’t behind much at all in damage.

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Get bent, us PvPers care.

I demand my survivability back!
Or at least my damage to compensate.
Truly a glass cannon with no cannon.

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Pretty much how I feel and my gear isn’t even as high. and I swear if someone says “jUsT reRoLl” as if that fixes anything. I play DH because I like the playstyle and aesthetic. It’s the class I prefer above all else and Blizzard pretty much nuked it.

Should mention that PvE she can kind of hold her own but PvP is atrocious. I want to unlock mounts/armor but it is such a struggle with DH right now.

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100% agree

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The damage isn’t amazing, but that’s not my complaint.

The hit to survivability from BFA is totally justified, it was just taken too far. Havoc is one of the few specs without an on demand heal. This used to be offset by their leech, blur, darkness and blade dance dodge. I would like it if the leech came back, the dodge brought back and meta cooldown reduced to 3min from 4min.

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That just means the players in your raid are a: undergeared or b: very bad.

I didn’t think much of it till I carried some of my guildies in a m+12. Pugs were doing more damage than them.

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For reference.

I hit 97% Parse @ CN - Stone Legion this week.

203 Havoc, CT Legendary.

3.5K DPS.
1.8million overall.

Topped the chart for that fight.

Here’s the issue.

MM Hunter and Balance Druid parsed 60%
3.4K DPS
1.7milllion Overall ( There abouts )

I got super lucky, insanely lucky with CT Procs.
Shadowcore Oil both weapons.
Shadow core Potion x2 at cd reset
Flask +70 Agi.
Etc.

A 97% Parse barely beat a 60%.

Our damage is hot garbage.

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Blizzard doesn’t care bout you. Keep your PVP balance out of our PVE game.

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Please post on your main and link your logs.

Much faster to simply paste the logs than to type out what the logs will tell me themselves

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Do you not believe his parse? From checking mythic logs his dps per ilvl sounds about right, no?

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I like evidence.

I am confident he’s discussing either heroic or normal parses, neither of which actually matter; normal even less so.

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True but what he said matches most parses on warcraft log albeit with a deviation of 5 to 10%. It did sound like heroic which I have parsed 96% too on some fights.

I have noticed damage go up with the second potency conduit unlock. Do you know if our damage gets quite better with the last conduit/soulbind unlock?

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How do normal/heroic parses not matter? Thats 90% of the population. You think blizz tune classes based on 1% mythic raiders lol.

Haugs you’re funny.

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Personally think dh is fine people complaining are just sad they aren’t the top damage someone has to be middle of the pack.

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It feels bad not getting instant-invitations to pub raids and fat keystones like in Legion, but time’s change.

We could still use a buff without a doubt, but the sky isn’t falling.

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its crystal clear that DH need another buff on dmg and surv (for pvp reasons) , baseline leech will help

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