I’ll hot take here and say that it’s not required to go back to an older design to fix it. They could have just made improvements on the current design.
That could include some old iconic abilities but they’re specifically selling it as a return to form and frankly I find that shameful at best.
I’m just happy for FFXIV, ESO, and GW2. Having alternatives to WoW that work for me helped me put my catalog of Blizzard games behind me.
A suspicious corner of my brain is wondering whether removing all the fun class spells they did was a cynical ploy to be able to bring them back later for guaranteed approval from the players whenever they needed it most.
Which, let’s face it, is now.
If the jailer turns out to be Arthas I’m going to nope right out the door.
Back when Sylvanas had characterization she’d never have worked with him. Now? Who knows.
“Is now”
Has been like 4 expansions by now
Lets just admit that “blizzard is only giving the players what they want this expansion” is just a desperate mantra by now
Legion’s reception was overall pretty positive. I’m more and more convinced they’re deliberately alternating expansions into which they put effort with filler expansions.
I would be a lot more convinced of this if they had included a new class.
Legions reception was lukewarm at best. The questing zones were mediocre. The artifacts and the ap grind was despised. And there wasnt enough content at launch. And post game content was non existent.
Its only become “positive” as time has went on and people needed more reasons to justify their dislike of bfa.
Just like when people need a reason to justify their disinterest in shadowlands, bfa will be looking pretty rosy
wut
Legion was one of the best expacks they’ve ever done and was so right out of the gate to a huge number of players. Unsurprisingly, it also happened to be an expack with lots of regular content.
No. No it really wasn’t. The endless AP grind was well criticized, there wasn’t enough content at launch and what content came out pre-argus was drips in a bucket.
not to mention giving every players powerful well known lore relics (like say, ashbringer) was seen as the most desperate move by blizzard in recent history to get players back
everything people are saying now, they said then, and the time before that…and the time before that…
Yeah, I’m not sure what friend circles you hang with, but at least in my experience, people loved Legion then, not just after-the fact. The AP grind was a pain, and the early Legendary drop system was pretty bad, but they did smooth that out. Most of the negativity towards the expack is what happened after-the-fact with those systems getting reworked (Mythic+ in particular), not when they where actually in play.
The artifact weapons were largely a ton of fun, and the only negative aspect of them was Blizz shooting themselves in the foot by just… getting rid of them without replacing them with another viable system. Getting the fun skins from Mage Tower alone is probably some of the most fun I’ve ever had playing this game.
Come to think of it, it was probably the only expack I was subbed mostly from launch day to the day BFA dropped.
And that’s like…your opinion, man. But it ain’t what happened.
Legion launched with a ton of issues but most of them were fixed by argus so that likely increases the rose colored glasses effect. I had almost forgotten what a disaster legendaries were in early/mid legion until you mentioned it.
The Legendaries were pretty bad, yes, and one of the biggest reasons I switch from rogue to AffLock halfway through. That said, there was enough else to do that a lot of players still had fun unless they needed the top BIS for Mythics or something.
I mean, even a cursory google search shows a ton of people from PCGamer to regular ol’ WoW Forum polls having Legion as the second best they’ve done among fans.
WotLK is, of course, on top for most of these polls. MoP is my personal fav, though. I want to chill in Jade Forest forever.
I suffered Roll the Bones and Focused Rage. I recall exactly how awful Legion was.
And how awful it also was not.
yeah. pre-argus legion suuuuuuuuuuuucked, but it’s been long enough that people forget that argus was released a literal year after Legion was. So, for a year, Legion was the epitome of bad expansion design, and the most desperate attempt to get new people to play
you know…until it was halfway decent a year in and now it’s the best expansion they’ve ever released and bfa is so much worse
I really enjoyed Legion. Most of the people I talked to, both at the time and since, were really enjoying Legion. I quit during WoD and was persuaded to pick up Legion by the ringing endorsement of somebody who rarely has anything good to say about this game.
Obviously not everyone did, but on balance, it was a pretty well-liked expac despite its flaws. And that’s the pattern I’m talking about. One on, one off. They’ve been doing this from the beginning, but BC and MoP weren’t that awful, compared to WoD and BfA. It seems to be escalating, which is what worries me.
Asking Blizzard to properly balance in any game they do is a fool’s errand
What has me worried is the feature list is very sparse compared to previous expansions. For the first time every zone got it’s own bullet point.