If the Maw started sucking up souls in Edge of Night right after Icecrown, that would mean Cairne is also in double hell and didn’t think it worth mentioning on the few times his ghost has shown up.
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Would that kind of omission honestly surprise you?
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It wouldn’t, no. Because at this point, I think the weak plot is a crutch for them.
If the lore is all over the place and confusing, it acts as a helpful smoke screen so they can just change it whenever it doesn’t make sense.
Sylvanas’ actions seem out of character? She was evil all the way back in Edge of Night!
Why didn’t Cairne mention Super Hell? Because the Lantern something something.
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Lets be hinest if a plot point is ever inconvenient they will just discard it.
See also: The Vindicaar and the Loyalist Storyline
Or just flat out claim its over: Night Elves lost their home and were genocided? Oh Tyrande got her revenge and the Alliance won off screen
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Welcome to the Authentic Night Elf Experience
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I feel like, conceptually, this is true.
But for me, personally, there’s so little investment in the story and everything’s become so rote and mundane that it’s impossible to be even depressed about this. Like, even going to Mega Turbo Hell feels like they’re stupidly trying to one-up themselves.
Because they are. The literary power creep in WoW has gotten so bad that they are struggling to find threats now that we’ve beaten Space Satan.
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Wait… wait, no that can’t possibly be… hold on:
Burning Crusade: Shattered Sun forces from both sides unite to save the sunwell. Velen reignites the sunwell and makes a speech about how redemption is for everyone.
Wrath: Ashen Verdict have a tournament in which some faction conflict occurs and Tirion makes a speech about how the faction conflict only benefits our enemies. We unite to stop the lich king.
Cataclysm: horde and alliance get on the alliance airship together to beat deathwing (at least no speech this time, as far as I know)
Pandaria: this entire expansion was one long repudiation of the faction conflict, complete with several speeches
Warlords of Draenor: Yrel and Durotan exchange weapons to work together against the iron horde, and we even end up uniting against the non-fel parts of the Iron horde so that DRAENOR IS FREE
Legion: at several points i was reminded that the factions were too busy fighting each other to help so it is up to us, the class halls!
BFA was what it was.
Wow, this game has been anti-faction war for nearly its entire life.
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This might just come down to personal taste, but I feel like Space Satan is worse than Regular Satan, so we’re actually going backward.
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These are my sentiments exactly. The player character isn’t mortal anymore - you’re THE GUY, and not A GUY.
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The devs like to bleat that the faction divide and war is the heart if the franchise.
No it is not. Want to know what the heart of Warcraft is? Warcraft 3, you know that game that spent a considerable amount of time devoted to pointing out that only through joining forces can we succeed.
Faction War hasn’t been the heart of the franchise since Warcraft 2.
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I mean yes that’s true, but that would mean the Gilneans have been suffering in WoW Hell for 5 years now in lore, and then all the innocent Night Elves and Gilneans added on top of that from Teldrassil. We just can’t catch a break.
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I guess Faction War is the pinnacle of WoW because without it, they couldn’t do Overcoming Faction Wars as a theme and then they’d have to think up a new story.
My dude, have you played this game.
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Friends, would you like to hear a controversial opinion? I’m not terribly fond of the game’s current lore.
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Yes I have?
I’m sorry, that was overly glib of me. I was basically attempting to convey that “the Alliance can’t catch a break” is another pillar of WoW.
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I would like to incorporate glib into my everyday vocabulary.
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Which most faction war chest thumpers will tell you Warcraft 2 is irrelevant because ThAt WaS tHe OlD hOrDe while pointing at Garithos as a Very Relevant Alliance Man Who Is Bad.
So basically faction war hasn’t been a staple of the franchise until World of Warcraft and even then it’s a staple that’s been broken up with and gotten back together with enough times that it’s shadowbanned from r/relationshipadvice because it never listens to the advice given but posts several hundred times a year.
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You know what, I wouldn’t be so mad about the faction war if they weren’t so god-damn insistent on having an every expansion pack verbal thrashing of the player characters that we must Put Aside Our Differences and Only United Will We Overcome and My God You All Act Like Children.
Like holy hell my dudes, I’m paying you for a fun experience not to be constantly reprimanded. I don’t mean to kink shame but you’re flexing some weird fetishes on me.
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It seems incredibly fitting of Blizzard, a company who appears to refuse to address consumer feedback and complaints until the lost possible dollar, to continue to espouse some faux sentimentality to a decrepit pillar that’s main relevance was relegated to the function of an entirely different genre of game.
Blizzard I’m not sure if you’re aware but WoW is an MMO, not an RTS, players want to interact with each other in the big wide world you keep shrinking (then unshrinking by taking away the ability to get to / experience things). Both the social and casual aspects are the only thing that keep the game afloat.
But when Alliance players just give up wholesale and Blizzard has to scramble to justify making content for a non existant portion of the playerbase, when they have to sell the Horde on how they aren’t really evil they’re just being duped by evil forces for the sixteenth time. I look forward to how we’re all simply too dense, too bias, to understand the grand strategy in play.
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