Crafting system encourages players to rip off crafters

Example of this:

As I’m writing this, there is a player with a request for Frozen Spellthread to be crafted, requiring that the Tailor provide their own materials, and is only paying a commission of 1 silver.

Another player is requesting several Chronocloth Reagent Bags, requiring that the Tailor provide their own materials, and is only paying 500g - slightly more than the price of a single bolt of chronocloth.

Requiring that the crafter use their own materials is absolutely insane especially if the requestor can obtain the item for absolutely ridiculously cheap commissions.

I know that the crafter can choose to not accept the order, but it is absolutely absurd that this is even allowed.

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yeah idk who thinks its a good idea to have the crafter provide their own materials.

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Yeah I just saw someone post over 2 dozen of both the cloth bolts for 1-22 silver each.

Great idea! It went from being mostly dead to 99.9% spam orders that nobody with a brain will take.

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The dropdown arrow next to their name has an ignore button. This will clear all of their spam crafts.

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so many people on my ignore list today! news flash, anyone tempted to try this stuff, blizzard helpfully added a little window that tells us before we make your item for you that we’ll be using our own mats. now i’ve got you on ignore and will never make any legitimate gear for you because of this nonsense. :roll_eyes:

would be great if blizzard could supply a solution to this problem of their own making in the form of a new ‘customer supplied materials’ filter so I can stop seeing all these timewasters/scammers, ngl.

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The problem is that it doesn’t right out say which mat. Because we may actually be offering the finishing reagent, which will also prompt that if I’m not mistaken.

And the UI shows the mats like it they were supplied (except from a tiny checkmark that only tells you that it means “provided” if you mouse over it).

The filters need to work there, not only filtering “learned” recipes. Yes, we can go one by one ignoring (and miss some potential order that it’s not a troll from that player for another recipe), but there is no reason to not provide a filter in the UI with “have mats provided”.

Even when it’s not a troll, but we think that the price is not worth. No reason to ignore that player, just filter those out.

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This was the issue I had. I always use a polishing cloth on public orders so it counts as “using my materials”. There was no indication that it was also using some of my other materials.

I should have noticed before I accepted the order so it is my fault, but there really should be some kind of flag/indicator that shows which mats are yours and which are provided already.

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yeah this change was horrible, and to be honest the window isn’t 100% clear on what’s being used of yours and what isn’t. there’s a bunch of trap orders up on my server that you would like 5kish if you didn’t pay attention to.

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Oh no, whatever shall we do, 1/454854389582 crafters put me on ignore and won’t craft an item I will need.

Why do people threaten ignore as if it’s something anyone cares about? I always find it so funny.

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Ya…

Especially on the Unstable Elementium. Very easy to lose a lot of Gemdust if you’re not paying careful attention.

And it may not always be on purpose. Pretty easy to do on both sides of the equation.

Probably should have an “Are you sure” modal before crafting a public order with your own matts.

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They already do, and it’s going to be especially conspicuous on the unstable elementium where you’re not using the finishing reagents

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They have one if you don’t have enough mats. Guess how I found out about that? Because at one point I did have enough.

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No, it gives the popup even if you do have enough mats

https://puu.sh/JCATW/858f340453.png

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Hum…

Maybe I never had enough.

Don’t recall seeing that pop up and having 50 more gemdust. Maybe a bug with gemdust, maybe I’m mistaken.

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It was giving me the pop-up with gem dust last night too

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Maybe I was clicking through it.

Didn’t even know you could send incomplete orders. Been sending matts through the mail for alts and the consortium weekly all expansion.

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This was a change with the 10.07 patch for Public crafting orders. Before the requestor had to provide everything. Now they only have to provide BoP materials.

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Well that’s the root of my confusion over this.

Not a big deal. 800g in fees. Probably zombie clicked through and lost about 500g in gemdust. Luckily I only had enough on me for a couple of crafts.

But the consortium quest alt dance just got a lot easier.

I made a post about my concerns with this as soon as they announced it last month. Needless to say, I’ve seen several orders posted that would be a huge loss and only already wealthy crafters desperate to level their profession would take them (or as others have said they didn’t even realize they were doing it). Thankfully I rarely have this many mats on hand and it’s easy to see that I can’t complete them.

The new system seems to only benefit greedy or clueless consumers and wealthy crafters. As others have said, I know you don’t have to take them, but there are so few orders as it is, there would be more normal orders to take without this as an option. And it’s more time spent clicking into them to find out they will be a loss as opposed to just looking at the commission price and item and deciding if you will craft or not.

You never had to provide mats for personal orders. I rarely sent the mats to my alts for the crafting weeklies. This change is only for public orders. The only change for these is that every time I craft for my alt, I have to click a dialogue that I’m sure I want to make it with my own mats. So, no, the alt dance actually got slower. Not saying that the dialogue is a bad thing, and I know it’s a pretty minor addition, but all these tiny steps add up to extra clicking.

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Just found this “No Mats; No Make” add-on posted on Reddit that displays if mats are provided without having to click into each one:
https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/publicordersreagentscolumn

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