How many servers are scanned when doing a search for crafting orders? I know most of the orders I see are from servers other than my own and I’m wondering how I can spam searches on all those servers and not see a single order up. I’ve spent time doing these searches at all different times of day and night and it does seem to have gotten worse since hitting 100 leather working.
It’s only the servers in your realm group, not all servers in your region. If you are on a low population realm, or in a group of low population realms, then odds are there aren’t many orders to see. This is one of many issues with the new crafting system.
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I’ve read on higher population servers there are tons of orders up all the time, I wish they would start adding a few more even if just to the crafting order pool.
I have Tailoring, Enchanting, and Inscription. There haven’t been any WOs in weeks for any of them.
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I think crafting orders are a great idea but if nobody is putting up orders it’s useless. I wonder if people either don’t like to use it or most don’t know how. Maybe a few world quests for non crafters to teach? I don’t , it’s to bad.
I’ve got characters on Medivh and Illidan, and there’s a huge difference between the medium population server (Medivh) and the “full” server (Illidan). Unfortunately, based on personal experience and what I’ve seen posted here, unless you are on a very busy realm, your experience with the new system is likely to be subpar.
On Medivh the crafting system is basically dead. There’s barely any public orders outside of a handful for items that people likely can’t craft, and Trade chat for Personal orders is a ghost town with maybe one post every 15-30 min by a crafter looking for work. Requests for items are so rare I don’t remember the last time I saw one. All of my crafting characters are on Medivh and they’re all rotting away in Valdrakken because the system is basically a failure in my realm group.
Compare this with Illidan, where Trade is a constant stream of players hawking their wares and customers looking for service. Public orders are still mostly absent but the Personal order system appears to be healthy, provided you can make things at the item level people want. This presents its own challenges of course, since it’s hard to break into a market that already has people providing wares people want.
TLDR it all seems to boil down to which realm you’re on. If you chose the “right” realm weeks, months, or years ago when creating your toons then maybe your experience is positive, but if you chose “wrong” then odds are the entire system will turn into a huge waste of time and gold with little to show for it.
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Because the design requires a high population server, however other than 3 to 5 servers all the rest are low population so there simply isn’t enough players to support the system.
I see profession tools requested every now and then, but I suspect I’ll start to see a lot more once I finally unlock Ol’Smoky.
No one is doing orders for Inscription. The recipes that offer skill ups all require Sparks and people are using their sparks right now for weapons and necks.
It also seems like a lot of people are trying to do multiple professions on multiple toons instead of using orders to craft what they don’t have.
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I’m also on Medivh. Everyone I know keeps trying to do all the professions themselves. The only orders going up are for BS or JC. I’m in some groups with multiple guilds around the server and I keep telling them I can make things, and the response is always “Oh! I should level that so I can make it.” I don’t think the system is that hard to understand that you aren’t mean to be a Jack-of-all-Trades.
This is just not true. The only time it was the case was when elemental lariats came out and there were too few crafters.
You do see orders around sometimes, but they only last 1-30 seconds. What people do is spam trade chat for orders, you get to ask for real prices too so it’s actually worth your time rather than public orders going for 1 silver - 500g.
Part of that likely comes from the older model where you could just level up to 100 by putting some amount of gold into the exercise, and part of is is probably people not wanting to pay someone else tens of thousands of gold to make them some thing “just by clicking a button”. There’s a lot of problems with that mentality of course, but it’s definitely a thing.
The problem with this mentality in the new system is that in order to be able to make the thing you want, you’ll have to dump tens of thousands in gold to level up, and then specialize correctly in order to make the thing you want. Then depending on how difficult it is to make, you might end up making one that isn’t very good, etc. In many cases you would have been better off just paying someone else to make it as opposed to going through the exercise of being able to make it yourself.
The problem I’m seeing on a realm like Medivh is that there’s virtually no business. Public orders are dead, Trade chat is mostly dead, so as a crafter you’re sort of stuck in a situation where nobody seems to want anything crafted (or don’t want what you can craft), while doing it just for yourself isn’t a good use of time or resources in most cases.
The other issue is determining what, if any, profession and specialization might actually work out positively on a server like Medivh. With so little apparent demand, is it worth investing in being able to craft high quality Bows (as an example) vs something else? How can you determine what the “right” path is when all paths could end up being a flop because of what looks like limited demand for anything?
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You’re totally right, which is why I’ve just been doing gathering for the most part. All my guildmates are complaining about not having gold, but I’m easily making 50k a day with just an hour or so gathering. Hopefully the prices will fall and as more people get more knowledge points things will be easier to level.
I honestly think public orders should have never been a thing. It just ruins things for all crafters as there will always be people willing to poop out a bad quality item for 1 silver. Getting people to be more social with crafting is better for the buyer more often than not and far better for the crafters who spent lots of time and gold on their professions.
They need a better way for people to advertise what they can craft for personal orders. A notice board maybe where people can loot up items, see whos online, and what their inspiration and other stats are.
If public orders stay they need to limit how many items people can craft down to like 2-5 a day, so that way more people can actually get orders, and people would be more willing to pay over 10g on public orders.
I’ve been using public orders for my Spark items and they always come out 4* or 5*. The catch is I put in Primal Infusion and a Missive. Thus only crafters who have speced far enough into the specialization to unlock those can take the order.
Which is something I haven’t seen anyone talk about. Hecc, the only reason I figured it was safe enough to do that was being unable to accept a low-level gun PO because it had a Missive.
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