Crafting Order Conundrum (and suggested fix)

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There is a public order for a Chef’s Rolling Pin in the system, and I hesitate to make it. It would give me a skill-up, which is important for making higher-quality versions, etc., but here’s the thing:

I don’t want to fill this crafting order.

At 75 Inscription, I have gained my last 5 points by brute force sending profession tools to my alts and guildies. I have maxed out all of the knowledge trees available to me, and there is nothing I can do to improve the quality of my Chef’s Rolling Pins without making more of them.

IN THE CRAFTING ORDER, the player has used 3-star mats, which cost him a pretty penny, I can assure you. If I make his order, he will receive a 3-star pin from me, and I just feel like that would be unkind of me. Sure, I get another skill point, and no, he didn’t put any insight in there to improve the quality (the crafter cannot add her own).

AND ( the point of this post ) I cannot contact the customer to ask him if a 3-star is okay or if he would prefer I just not take his order.

Because I cannot communicate with him (I tried sending a tell but he is not currently online), I cannot assess whether to make this order or not, whether he would want me to make a 3-star pin or whether he wants to wait it out and see if a 5-star crafter will make it.

What will likely happen instead is that some other scribe will see his order and make the pin without considering whether the customer’s 12k gold worth of mats are going to be satisfied with a sub-5-star item.

Blizzard needs to add 2 things to crafting orders RIGHT NOW:

1.) A way for customer and crafter to communicate within the interface BEFORE the item gets crafted…a way to ask questions and send answers.
2.) A “minimum quality accepted” tickbox.

Because this just isn’t workable. The customers can easily get screwed and the conscientious crafters who want to respect the customer’s mats and expectations…get screwed, too.

Fix it, please. I beg you.

In the meantime, customers: If you put in a crafting order, PLEASE leave in the comment what you are willing/unwilling to accept and quality expectations in the note section. If you don’t do that, the “good” crafters who actually want to show respect for your time and gold and mats…are not the ones who will be making your item.

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Unfortunately I can see how this idea can go terribly wrong with the toxicity in this game.

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Ditto, but I can block anyone who’s rude to me. it would be nice, however, to have the ability to ask the customer if he/she WANTS me to craft the item at less than 5-star or not.

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Blizzard has admitted the public order system was intended for players who don’t care about the quality of the item they’re getting, while personal/guild orders are intended for players who want control over what they’re getting.

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But isn’t that icky? I mean, it just feels gross to me.

Decent player adds decent tip and stacks 3-star mats into a public order…obviously, this guy did his part. It feels wrong to take his mats and his gold only to give him a mid-point quality item he’ll have to recraft later.

It just feels awful.

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This is being fixed in patch. You can set quality.

Also, probably can’t whisper because they are other faction.

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What? I’m on the PTR right now, and there’s no setting for quality under public orders.
I think they said they were looking into ways of improving public orders, and adding quality was something they brought up.

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Unfortunately for a lot of professions those public orders are the only way you’re gonna level up. Yeah it would be nice to be able to craft the very best for everybody but its just not going to happen. All you can do is give it your very best and hope to be inspired

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Someone else crafted it because it’s no longer in there. I hope for the customer’s sake that he gets a good one. Sigh.

Yeah, that or just grinding mats/gold to buy the mats. I’ve already made like four just to vend for points, which is absurd. Honestly, almost nobody puts in public orders, and that’s the first one I’ve seen for this item.

What we’re left with is BoP items nobody wants that we have to make, costing 10-20k in mats, simply to skill-up our profession.

It was a poorly thought-out and poorly executed thing. There should have been another path to 100.

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As someone who uses the public orders to get crafted gear, i dont need to get the best quality item… but anything under second best and i would probably be grumpy XD

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Yeah, that was kinda my feeling. If I could make 4-star without inspiration luck, I would’ve made one for him, but mine are consistently 3-star right now. If he’d put in 2-star mats, I’d have made it, no problem, because that indicates they just want the blue pin and are willing to have it be less than 5-star, but this guy (bless his cotton socks) put in all 3-star mats. That’s…a lot of gold.

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You can set the quality of the craft you want beforehand and usually folks recraft for free so i find it ok to fulfil public orders

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I agree, and I wont make anything I cant at the very least 3 or 4 star, depending on what they give me to work with. It does feel bad sometimes but the only way to get better is by pushing through

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Any form of interaction in a game carries the risk of that sort of thing. That’s no reason not to include something that would make it easier to sort out what the customer wants, the same way that advertising in Trade does.

Doesn’t that sort of seem the reverse of what it should be? Surely you should have more control in dealing with strangers than you would need with those people you know. After all, its very easy to talk to a guildy or a friend and sort out the crafting, but making it harder for the public system seems counterintuitive.

That could certainly be an issue if crafting orders are faction wide. In that case, being able to set a quality should fix a lot of those issues.

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What they need to do is just make all the crafted items BoE, enough of the BoP bs…
Then extend the order system to include all expansions, which is where I think it would be the most useful. That way players can have old items made that crafters may not realize are still in demand.

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100% agreed.

Unfortunately, that just plays right back into the AH system and the auction pros would take it over like everything else. I like the crafting order system. I like it a lot. It just feels very unfinished, untested, and rough.

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The system is kinda rough anyways, Im 100 BS totally maxed in axes as well as long blades and still I have to rely on like 26% inspiration to 5 star something with an infusion in it until I can recraft my tools higher. Theres just only so much you can do and all I can say is take the orders and give it your very best as you skill up

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First of all: Hey, congrats! That was a lot of work, and I know it. :slight_smile:

Second, yeah. It’s rough. I think the customer base that isn’t leveling a crafter profession has this notion that because one or two people gamed this thing early that any crafter who isn’t providing 5-star items is somehow cheating them.

We aren’t, guys. We are trying so hard.

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I know what you mean but as of right now there’s only a few crafters that are getting business anyway. On my realm seems like everyone is using the same Blacksmith, and since they are reliable… no need to ever buy from anyone else. I would rather play ah game personally. Obviously there has to be better options overall, I just hate the BoP things they have going on.

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The whole system is bad.

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