Covenants are broken

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yes. I read that already

Why are you crying that people care what Preach thinks?

Like it or not he is an expert on the matter. It is literally his job to play WoW and test crap on the beta. Unfortunately for me, I work for a law firm. I don’t have time to play WoW 10 hours a day and play test beta, so when someone does it for me, and makes a concise video explaining their findings, that is pretty cool of them.

He has been doing this for years, and has a very accurate track record for identifying systems which will be problematic.

Saying Preach is “just another dude” is like dismissing a report that an investigative journalist spent 3 months researching.

If you want people to care about what you think as much as people care what Preach thinks, go do your own testing and make your own videos instead of acting jelly on the forums.

lets hope the game can survive this, people tolerated BFA but might lose it if the cycle repeats again.

Why are streamers treated like their opinion has more value than anyone else because people watch them?

im not crying.
I said i don’t care what he thinks.
If no one replied to that, that would have been the last heard from me on the topic.

It’s not that, they have good knowledge of the systems hence it makes sense what they say. They aren’t releasing mindless content.

Because for many of them playing WoW is their job, they spend a ton of time testing on the alpha and beta that most people can’t do because they have different real life professions.

I mean obviously their opinions have merit, but shouldn’t people actually wait to try it out for themselves before jumping on the hate train? Seems silly to me

I won’t call it hate train, we have seen this before hence don’t want to go through it again.

Why would you wait for it to go live? This is beta. Once it goes live it won’t get fixed until 9.3.

Look, I don’t have time to play test beta for 100+ hours like Preach. If he wants to do this for me, and make a video explaining his findings during his testing, that saves me a ton of time.

The complaint about homogenization is making classes too similar to each other; a problem that covenants doesn’t fix (covenants are borrowed power; classes are still baseline homogeneous)

If the argument is that covenants give you the ability to be unique, why do they need to be locked? People are more likely to play the optimal set up for their spec if they’re limited on swapping it. Why would I want to waste my weekly swap “trying things out”…I don’t want to be stuck with something abysmal for the rest of the week.

Welp, I thought I was a fan of RPGs, but alas some of them have respec options so they’re actually racing games instead. :S

I actually did that for BFA.
Even pre-ordered. Ended up quitting and coming back around 8.2 or 8.2.5.

Blizzard can’t change that or people would freak. It’s hard to change the MOBA elements out of WoW because no one wants to give up all the accessibility at their finger tips, and its depressing.

I keep seeing people say this but I don’t know what specifically people refer to. The current talent system?

My point was that covenants don’t suddenly fix the problem. DKs getting access to blinks, any class going night fae and getting shapeshifts…fixes homogenization?

Ok look at it kind of like a big purchase like a car or an appliance.

What is the first thing you do? Go out and buy the first one you see ?

No you do your research and see what the people testing the item have to say .

Do you go only with the first person ? Most likely you will check other sources to verify or contradict the first persons opinion .

Once you have read all the reviews and find the ones with problems or the ones the most people liked you make your choice.

Well the streamers are those testers and what is happening in SL is pretty much universally disliked by the people doing the testing.

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The ease of use to have the best tools for any situation; so the simple swap of talents in a rested area (or burning a Tome), simple spec swapping, no permanent glyphs, and the ease of getting gear.

Everything’s instantaneous, rock-paper-scissors.

Not when you put that way, no. But then again, we don’t know what Blizzard will do when the game launches.

Coming as a person who really doesn’t care which state SL launches (the points have been beaten to death, it will be one or the other)… This ridiculously awful hashtag can just go away forever.

Sick and tired or seeing these things made up by people who think they’re super edgy.

Except we’re not plunking down thousands of dollars for a game. That’s where your analogy falls apart.

This is a game; it’s not as serious as buying a car or an appliance. Preach isn’t always right–he cried pay to win when his guild lost the world first race, which isn’t true at all.

As soon as you said preach you lost all credibility.