I want my characters covenant to be my choice, I don’t want that choice made for me by the community. I want to remain with the covenant that I vibe with the most and without feeling like I’m losing something.
I propose separating covenants from soul binds. Cosmetics would be a benefit of the covenants and covenant abilities would be separate and part of the soul bind system.
For example, you could be with the Necrolords, but have your soul bound to someone with the Night Fae. Or be with the Kyrian, but be soul bound to someone with the Venthyr.
It would require a little more work from Blizzard to make things work, but I think it would be worth it. They might have to add a few more cosmetics for abilities so that things would make more sense visually.
For me this idea is much better than simply pulling the ripcord, this way the covenants can be made a little more permanent, it allows for player choice, and it’s not a huge systems overhaul. It would be win/win for everyone.
Just pick your Covenant. It doesn’t matter what meta slaves do. They’ll chase their 1% potential increase that some streamer tells them is good no matter what. The game shouldn’t be ruined to appease people that actively believe thinking for yourself is a bad thing.
I have one foot in each world, I understand both points of view. I would not be happy if Blizzard simply pulled the ripcord and allowed everyone to freely swap, but I get why some players want to do that.
Some will choose to remain with their covenants no matter what, but they will be in for quite a bit of abuse. I know the playerbase well, I can see it coming from a mile away. It shouldn’t be that way imo.
If you’re suggesting tying the ability you have to whichever soulbind you have activated than that’s a pretty popular compromise I’ve seen floating around. I like it.
We’re the Maw Walker after all. Savior of the shadowlands. We should be able to bind our souls with whoever we want.
I think it’s a fair compromise, but I honestly had no idea that it was already talked about. Anyhow, I only hope Blizzard thinks about doing something like that instead of allowing freely swappable covenants, if it got to that point.
Probably because both of the following arguments are made.
1: The abilities aren’t impactful enough to be tied to covenants.
2: The abilities are too impactful and will ruin the game
The ripcord side, in an attempt to create as many arguments as possible, have been stating conflicting stuff like this.
Personally, I want to play with it as its intended. If it turns out awful and needs to be changed, sure, change it then. However I will be disappointed if it changes before launch.
I don’t think anyone really wants swappable covenants. They want power to be untied from covenants. Ironically, if they did untie power from them they could make the covenants more of a permanent and meaningful choice for your characters story.
They could also make the abilities much more interesting and powerful since they wouldn’t need to worry about balancing as much.
In what way does the OP’s suggestion ruin the game for you? Nobody is saying you can’t go all the way into one Covenant and ignore the others.
I hear this complaint from so many of those who are for keeping the covenants the way they are but they never say how it ruins the game. At most they give a vague choices should matter cop out.
Personally the way I see it, we already supposedly establish connections with the eventual soul binds that we create in each covenants during the actual levelling process.
So why not make the covenant choice cosmetic and aesthetic driven, whilst having the all soul binds be connected to you.
Then what would happen if you would have the choice of the 12 soulbinds, but when bound to a soul bind you gain the signature and class ability of that covenant.
It would stop any nonsense of “oh I’ll take the Venthyr signature, with the Night Fae soul bind, and the Maldraxxus class ability”.
We already know how impactful the abilities are. Some have Covenant abilities that not only out class all the others but also are viable in every form of content ex: DK/Night Fae Warrior/Venthyr Then you have a class like the mage where one Covenant ability was basically designed for one spec and is pretty much trash for the others, ex: Arcane/Necrolord synergy. Who knows what other examples there are, I only keep up with the classes I care about or the ones my friends play. I’m sure it’ll be even worse for some classes.
Anyone who thinks this’ll be a small choice is delusional, have fun being stuck with a dead talent though if you pick wrong. A fun experiment to try btw, pick all the worst talents for your spec right now and see how much it would be being stuck with them for months at a time.
I like the idea of unbinding abilities from the covenants btw. even if they let us freely choose covenants I’ll still never be able to play with them cause the other abilities just kinda suck. If they were talent choices I can use a tome on and experiment in the world or maybe low keys when I’m helping friends gear up then maybe it’d be fun to use bad abilities like Abom Limb.
There’s no case or context where they aren’t contradictory, especially to those who are uninformed.
And stuff like this is why these threads turn into echo chambers.
Have fun agreeing with each other I guess. I’m not sticking around to be insulted for hours again.
The only points I’ve ever come across that made any sort of sense from anti rip cord people are those that want the immersion to be unbroken and for the lore to matter. But beta shows that your choices don’t matter and the only thing it actually changes is how much power you have in the end. Locking covenants is just bad idea. If the abilities weren’t tied to your choice though it would be fine.