Could WoD remix save WoD’s reputation as one of the worst expansions

With the great success of MoP Remix I think this is a serious question.
-could WoD’s everlasting impression of being a stinky expansion in the minds of the majority of the playerbase actually change from a remix version
-of course there would need to be slight changes…
-would really want to know what yall think about this

WoD was disappointing because of all the cut content. Remix wouldn’t replace what never existed, so how would a Remix make it better?
MoP: Remix didn’t make Mists a better expansion, it’s already a favorably remembered expansion by those who played it originally.

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not for me. sure there was a content drought / twitter integration.

but for me and my wife, we place wod top 5/6 of best xpacs. if you were a “do everything” player wod had you non stop even with the “content drought”

not to mention it had the BEST and FASTEST leveling of any xpac before or after it. it was 1 of 2 xpacs that offered the elixir of ancient knowledge. heirlooms still granted xp and garrisons sold another xp elixir. and with the bonus objectives you could level from 90-100 in as fast as 20-30mins.

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Thats exactly it, what if they used remix to give WoD another shot with the content that was cut. I’m thinking of the bigger picture here. Basically take the barebones of remix but include/exclude what players generally liked/disliked about MoP Remix and make it into the version of WoD we never saw but dreamed of how good it could be. I mean after all it is a “remixed” version of the game meaning it could be completely random what they actually choose to add and not to add

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That’s entire development you’re talking about.

They gave us Remix because it could be run by a couple of devs as a side project while still working on TWW. They didn’t add anything to MoP w/ Remix (cloak already existed they just changed its stats & purpose), they just made what was already in the game easily accessible to everyone.

I personally enjoyed WoD too, but a majority of the player base has a resentment for the expansion which is understanding as per what has already been listed above ^^. I just wonder if it would actually accomplish some sort of meaningful experience if done correctly

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That’s good, WoD had some good content but there are reasons why, in spite of some players such as yourselves enjoying it, very many (the majority?) think it was the worst expac before the abomination called Shadowlands were inflicted on us and many 100000s players stopped subbing.

Given that background I really don’t see Blizzard investing in trying to rehabilitate WoD now.

WoD was great for us - the raiders.

The quality was top notch. Encounters were super fun, balanced etc etc etc

agreed. i know wod had one of the worst, if not worst launches of any xpac. and the content drought at the end due to twitter integration etc… but overall wod was solid. if you were a raider it had nice raids. the dungeons were great with nice lore and story to them. world creatures were perfect. ogres and arakkoa and saberon etc…

it was loaded with tons of world quests. tons and tons of rares and uber rares with insane drops. even the gladiator sanctum in the garrison. i pvped right from end of vanilla up until wotlk. wod was the only other xpac that actually had me pvping again.

it was solid in my book. i will not let a ddos launch and twitter integration discountenance my review and rating of wod. :smiley:

oh and Archimonde with there to. yea, Archimonde. the best.

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Its really not. I’m just throwing some options out there as to what could be possible. Scrapped ideas/cut content are two different things. If there was a motivated group of devs I don’t see why it couldn’t be possible. I think you’re misunderstanding generally what i’m saying and maybe i’m wording it incorrectly but I generally think people would like to see a refined version of that expansion and possibly give it a second chance and if Remix is the closest thing we will see to WoD being “revived” then its worth a shot

WoD’s content was amazing. The leveling is still by far the best in the game and the dungeons and raids are all great. The issue with WoD was Garrisons and the lack of content. Only 2 raid tiers really hurt, and remember this was before M+ so there was just nothing to do. And holy the cut content hurt the expansion so much. 50% of the expack at least was cut. The content there was however was very good. HFC is still one of my favorite raids.

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This is why I almost wonder if a timegated revisit is just what it needs to be remembered ever-so-slightly better to the masses. I mean it would be perfect to get remixed. So many mounts and mogs to get recolored I don’t see what the downside would be especially with it being a limited time event!

WoD’s issue was that it lacked content. One of the biggest things its first of two major content patches introduced is Twitter integration and Elon Musk ruined that for everyone 10 years later, which makes Patch 6.1 the single most useless major content patch in this game’s history now.

A Remix event’s purpose is to deliver much of that content in an incredibly truncated form. It didn’t make MoP a better expansion because MoP was already fondly remembered and had plenty of content to deliver upon (hell, even the entirety of 5.3’s content has long since been removed from the game) in that truncated form.

But WoD? You have three raids (one of which is just automatically impossible to fully clear on Mythic without a Priest), you have Tanaan Jungle, and you have… oh, right, that’s it.

Then it wouldn’t be WoD Remix; it would be something else entirely. MoP Remix’s appeal was that it was recycled slop content. WoD is infamously half an expansion that gave us maybe 20% of the content WoD should’ve given us; if you’re actively developing new content for WoD Remix, you’re wasting developer time and resources that should go into making the actual game better.

I don’t think you realize just how much content got cut from WoD. It is the biggest black mark against WoW’s development team as a whole to this day, because it is the one and only expansion that Blizzard, by their own admission, gave up on. That alone should make WoD the worst expansion of all time, even though what was there is fun: Blizzard actually managed to make BFA a better expansion by 8.2; even Shadowlands, for how despised it is, made a complete 180 and was genuinely good after 9.1.5 from a gameplay perspective. But WoD? Yeah, no, it is the one expansion that Blizzard gave up on.

It depends. Your evaluation of MoP is only your opinion. While others share it, not everyone does. So it would depend on why someone doesn’t like that expansion and if they liked Remix.

I really didn’t want to say WoD classic with changes. To me we have had one Remix and obviously we know how it was done. But for some reason I don’t think what we understand remix to be will stay the way we think of it as, and they will actually change it or do i say “revamp “ it. That might be more fitting to have basically a (WoD revamped) idea?

But revamped with what? The content isn’t sitting on a hard drive somewhere just waiting for it’s time to shine. They cut development, most likely reused some assets, and moved on.
They would need to put serious development time to create what never existed, to fill in the gaps that WoD left, and that’s a lot to ask for when they’re already concurrently developing a 3-expansion saga.

You do realize that everything we are talking about is possibilities or could-be’s right?

I do think the only real way they could make WoD Remix better and way more appealing is by adding some of the cut content that was planned and scrapped originally. If they do that on top of what they did with the last Remix, I think a fair number of people will enjoy it. It needs to FEEL like a remix instead of a revisit.

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Couldn’t agree with you more.

They should not do Remixes anymore. It’s parasitic game design and splits the playerbase even more. There’s also already so much FOMO in this game, it doesn’t need more limited-time events on top of it all. Developers should use the limited resources they have to ensure a smooth and engaging Retail.

No one will get to experience the old raids and dungeons as they were meant to be played anyway, since the gear Remix gives everyone is overpowered. Nearly all of the mechanics on my Mythic SoO were safely ignored.

Just use Chromie time, or wait for Classic WoD.

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