Could use some PC advice! =)

Off-Topic Games, Gaming and Hardware
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Hello!

I am looking to upgrade my CPU and have a few questions. I’m decent with computers, I buy all my parts separately and install them myself, but when it comes down to the fine details of each product, I am lacking knowledge.

Since dragonflight launched, I have noticed I get less than 60 FPS in some places, would love to change that.

Here is my current build:

Windows 11 Home 64-bit

AMD Ryzen 5 3600

16.0GB Dual-Channel DDR4 @ 1591MHz

ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING II (AM4)

VG248 (1920x1080@165Hz)

U28E590 (1920x1080@60Hz)

2047MB NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 (EVGA)

1863GB Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 2TB

I think my power supply is 750w, but I copied all of this from Speccy and it’s not listed there.

I’m pretty sure my CPU is my bottleneck here. (However it only runs between 40-50% according to task manager, maybe someone smarter than me can explain this.)

I am considering purchasing Ryzen 7 5800X as my upgrade, but I took a look at one website to compare it to my old CPU and said it would only be 11% upgrade, is this true?

So what I am trying to decide is if I should wait and buy a new motherboard that can use better processors, but wouldn’t be able to do that right away with my current budget.

Or buy the Ryzen 7 5800X… I’d prefer a CPU upgrade now, but if I’m only going to see a 11% increase in framerate, that wont be worth the $309 Canadian for me

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Get the 5800X3D. It’ll provide a significant boost to FPS mins over the 5800X due to the extra cache.

It even does better than the 5900x for gaming.

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Do you think I’ll see a pretty big boost to my FPS if I upgrade my CPU with my current motherboard?

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Yes, it’ll still do well with a B450 chipset.

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Thanks, I was looking at the 3D V-Cache one but honestly have no idea what that means and if it would have any impact on gaming, or if it was mostly for like a workstation thing. But from what you said, I assume its for gaming

Right now I’m sitting outside the Auction House in Valdrakken with all graphics, view distance, details, everything maxed out. (Other than ray traced shadows, I keep that off all the time) and averaging 42 FPS (I have names and nameplates turned off as well)

I’ll be heading out soon to buy a new CPU and I’ll post and update with the FPS gains after I install it

I don’t normally have everything maxed out, I adjust my settings so I get a higher frames to make use of my monitor but doing this as just a method to test =)

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RTX 3080 loves more powerful CPU. 5800X3D will give you big performance boost.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i5-13600k/18.html

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Following up from my last post of graphics settings and FPS being 42

Purchased and installed the 58003D and in the same area, looking in the same direction, everything the same as far as I know, hovering around 80 FPS

Massive boosts, thanks for the advice!

Edit: Just did a random BG as well, and was almost always above 200 FPS with the same settings, this is on a 1080p 165hz monitor btw ^.^

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You will need a decent cooler for 5800X3D as well. Good coolers will maintain boost longer.

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nice

also i think your ram is a bit slow. i think your board can handle 4800 but 3200 is pretty fast also if budget is a concern

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Yeah lots of people talking about CPU but your RAM speed is absolutely an issue.

You should be at 3200mhz minimum, ideally 3600. Your FPS (and your computer in general) will thank you for upgrading!

P.S your RAM is probably faster than 1600, have you gone into your BIOS and set the correct speed of your RAM? There should be a sticker on your sticks with the proper MHz. Let me know

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No his actual ram speed is 3200Mhz. You just have to be mindful when using something like CPUZ to read ram speed. Task Manager will report it as 3200Mhz for simplicity

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B whatever motherboards has lower base clock (BCLK) like 99.x instead of 100 as well. Speed is slightly slower than using it on X or Z motherboard. Thats how u get 1591mhz .

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The 5800X3D is the least ram-dependent out of all the Zen 3 CPUs due to the massive L3 cache.

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Aquorius is correct, my Ram is 3200, for whatever when using Speccy it shows half. I am considering getting more Ram, but I don’t multi task too much, and usually never go above 70-80% of ram usage so it’s not a major concern of mine at the moment

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The cache on the 5800X3D will more than help alleviate that problem. His current RAM will be fine if he gets the X3D.

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The Ram I was using was ‘Ok’, but it was a bottleneck for me regarding using ryzen precision boost overdrive.

When I turned it on with my old ram, it did nothing, no idea why.

I decided to upgrade to 32gb 3600 speed and with ryzen precision boost overdrive working now, I have managed to squeeze out about another 10% performance

Just a small update =)