Could all classes be made equally viable for high tier Delves?

I’m a Beast Master Hunter usually complete most T11 Delves without too much trouble. Other classes, e.g. healers, seem to struggle more than other classes in doing the more difficult Delves.

What do you think about adding a Brann companion, say Bolga Ironheart, for example, who could help the less viable classes and level the Delve playing field?

For example, for a healer class, Bolga could drag mobs off the healer when the healer got into trouble or even heal the healer. This is just an example of how a Brann companion could help out, when necessary, but not necessarily equally for all classes, or even be present for all classes. Maybe at the start of a Delve, the player as the option for not using Bolga.

I’m sure you guys have even better suggestions.

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The best way to balance Delves is to make them solo content for real.

Then instead of one Delve companion for everybody, you can make one Delve companion for every spec.

Then you can use those Delve companions as tuning knobs to balance Delves.

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All classes and specializations are viable for Delves.
So no, adding another companion to provide people with even easier access to already the easiest endgame content in the game seems… at best redundant. If folks are struggling in high tier delves, the way to solve that is to progress your character and go at a slower pace before heading into those delves.

But considering folks have been clearing 11 Delves even as they have newly hit max level in just questing gear back when Brann was beyond bonkers broken and still regarded delves as too difficult… I don’t think this is even that worthwhile of a thing to pursue.


Folks wanted a soloable endgame pillar. That means you have to progress your character and when stuff is overpowered it gets nerfed. Since Delves are part of that, this is how you deal with it: character progression, and if you can’t clear something yet, it simply means that you aren’t ready for that yet.

Nothing about how easy or difficult plays into that unless it is insurmountable but… Delves certainly aren’t. It is just folks complaining for the sake of complaining. Just progress your characters and everyone is fine.

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I like that. Groups have other paths.

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Do we not already have this with tank Brann? Am I missing something here?

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Well, why do healers have so much trouble with tank Brann?

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Skill issue. Not even memeing here, it’s a skill issue.

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No thank you.

This ruins things for a lot of us and they were never meant to be solo only. They were literally described as for solo and small groups for family and friends.

If they go more towards interactive stuff and not just mob damage and mechanics, then things can be more for everyone.

No my guild doesn’t. Our key bracket was deleted. And now we have the ability to run as different group sizes and still have an end game path.

Absolutely this.

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I do 11’s on my Holy Priest all day long.

I don’t really have issues with Tank Brann as a healer. He’ll bug out on occasion and pull half the Delve, but that’s not even a problem anymore, I got it covered.

well, there’s a real problem with tank Brann not kicking anything.
So when you are playing your disc priest on t11 Underkeep with tank Brann, the end boss is pretty rough.

You might get thru one cast of encasing webs, on the 2nd you are getting stunned and killed.

not sure it’s a skill issue cuz I don’t have a kick and Brann isn’t using his.

No fear doesn’t work, I tried and neither do tendrils. End boss can’t be CCd

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It’s moreso Brann’s own lvl/items, and your gear.

I breeze through 11’s, can pull large amounts of things and just heal through it as long as Brann has aggro.

Probably not as simplistic as other classes, but us healers are plenty viable.

Nope, by the very design this game is built around DPS/Tank/Healer. At most Delves can only have 2 of the 3. Thus the deciding factor comes down to if your class/spec can at lease do decent 2 of those 3 on its own.
Now not saying that they are impossible for certain specs or classes, but they have to be made easy enough for those characters, this means others will trivialize the content.

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The only time I have issues with Tank Brann these days is in the two underwater Delves. His AI (and the same with my pets) just can’t seem to handle the addition of the Z-axis very well.

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Are you undergeared?

(Blizz does have suggested gear levels for delves.)

Most classes have a dps spec. For example, I leveled my Blood Elf Priest as a Shadow Priest using Brann as a healer. It wasn’t a high level tier but that has more to do with me being a noob than what the game provides. A better player with a more advanced Brann should be able to level a Shadow Priest that way.

Same with a Paladin, level it as a Ret Polly.

There’s no easier way to run delves than to run it as a healer with tank Brann for sure. Even on my paladin that could do any of the three roles, healing tank Brann is so much easier than any other role combination.

Except I don’t lol.

You should probably stop listening to lesser skilled players.

That’s why you spec into Phantasm talent and use Fade on 1 or 2 stacks to prevent getting stunned. Never use Purify because that’s on a global. I’ve only cleared that boss in The Underkeep as Holy going back to S1.

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Hows the speed of the run vs Tank and Healer Brann?

Delves aren’t hard enough that any class isn’t viable.

They already are.