So… I have a bunch of alts. A few are in the 465-475 range but most have around 450ish ilvl.
And visions? Visions and cloaks suck. Hard.
I get the impression they were designed by someone who only played mains. Or maybe had a single alt. Levelling a cloak take a lot of runs, especially due to the multiple levels where you need between 2 and 4 runs to get it up a point. Visions are long, not particularly fun given how repetitive they are (especially given how few affixes exist), and not even new areas of the world we’ve never seen before (hence areas like the mage quarter being horrible to navigate).
So… why does this matter? I mean - just don’t do them on alts. Which is fine until a high corruption piece of gear drops. Going through the weekly chests today 3 of my minor alts got +75 corrupted items. With +5 resistance cloaks on. Which means either a) I cleanse them b) I have to spend weeks doing the cloak chain as they rot in my bank.
… feels really bad. Makes me really enthusiastic about torgast which lacks all of this stuff (at least atm )
this again? is there an hourly quota for these threads?
they’re alts, if you’re unwilling to learn the class and get through easy content (yes, the cloak upgrade quests are easy) then why on elune’s name are you so desperate to get the rewards?!
Who said anything about hard? They’re incredibly time consuming and dull. I have indeed done them. I have the backpack. The mount is unlocked. My main is at full corruption.
But my major complaint is purely how corruption interacts with upgrades for characters. I don’t really want to do the 4 run across the 6 additional characters I play from time to time. That’s not good design.
And Clárk - I’m in the alpha. Torgast atm is a joy to play once you’re inside due to it just being… fun. Yes farming keys will be a bit of a grumble but being inside it is something I’d do willingly. Not… so sure people would touch Visions if they didn’t feel they had to.
Bolded the key terms. Also, HVs were fun to play on the PTR before they added the vessels and then upped the vessel costs.
The difference between having only X amount of coalescing visions collectable per day, and the limited amount of time we can spend in The Maw hunting down keys for Torghast?
Absolutely nothing.
I’m sure Torghast is a blast right now. I’m also certain things will change between now and SL release build.
But in the long term, honestly, who can say? The maw hasn’t been released yet so all we’re doing is exploring the tower. And I can say that exploring it is fun. You want to do it, often for a few hours because of the ridiculous power ups and the rogue-lite experience. Also… no sanity mechanic or tight timer (I’m aware there will be ‘some’ sort of time eventually but its mainly there to stop people from wandering away and having lunch between pulls as their heroism resets)
Torghast feels like a major feature. A fun one. Visions felt like design being told they had to wrap the game up in a few months and move on. While being denied almost all art support. Again… look at how few affixes exist for the thing. Or how it just reuses old content.
But my complaint isn’t about that - its a plea that we never again have a situation where upgrades that drop aren’t equipable. Because… that’s not fun or good design.
I personally love being hard gated by a 3 week cloak grind just to be viable.
If I can play the class at a high level, let me play the class at a high level. I don’t need 10 different things completely out of my control gating me from being viable in any aspect of the game outside of world quests.
Evidence for my point: Every single expansion ever made for World of Warcraft except BFA.
do what I did…and do.
Park your characters and wait for SL’s.
I got as much 420gear as i can and Im done.
Not wasting my time on this trash corrupted system. Dont want to get a cloak or do the asinine cleansing thing.
I did the work for a 420 drop and they screwed me out of it with corruption.
Im not running so many characters thru the content to get to that point.
Bliz will either learn their lesson so we CAN play alts easier.
or they’ll have a bunch of ‘main’ players who cry about being bored 12 months into new content who wont run alts to keep busy.
Its up to them
Lolwut?! I finished Heroic NYA with a r6 or 7 cloak. You can get up to rank 5 in the first week.
I’ve pushed all 15s with a r12 cloak (yes im lazy too upgrade it too). #gitgud
The way visions and the cloak work for alts definitely feels bad. Even with the nerfs and buffs, limiting visions behind vessels is not a good system and does not feel good.
the corruption system feels absolutely awful. You can pull out your credit card to get the corruption you want, get extremely lucky or do subpar dps for the lifespan of your character. This is not a good system that could have many easy fixes and should have been fixed in PTR. Now we are a few months in and it still hasn’t been fixed. It is the worst system blizzard has ever come up with which is saying alot having just come out of 8.2 essences.
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