Why? For what purpose?
People ENJOY switching specs as the raid calls for it, if you don’t, don’t be the person who switches.
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Yeah true maybe that doesn’t work.
Wait why am i even trying to find a compromise here, leave dual spec the f alone, it was fine as it was.
Kinda concerning that moron mcgee thought you could change specs in combat or during an arena match back in the day. Imagine being that clueless about the game you’re meant to be in charge of recreating.
this is a really bad idea, lol
Putting a cool down on it is toxic af. Doing it in a rested area would be acceptable to me. But what’s the harm in min maxing anyway?
On my druid I plan on playing 2 specs minimum. If you don’t let me utilize “dual” specs then remove dual spec altogether and watch the community flock to private servers instead.
Worry about getting to 70 first.
no ones gonna ask you to change specs mid raid unless you were designated to switch prior to inviting you.
Blizz should make changes based on the 1% of sweaty, min/max tryhards? They did that once the first time around and look what happened to the game.
I don’t understand the concern in the first place, citing something the 1% is going to do in a min/max scenario that only applies to a raid environment doesn’t make much sense in terms or restricting a system.
This community is absolutely bananas.
In classic Vanilla if they had announced ANY changes there would have been such an outcry.
Now there changing core mechanical behaviours from the original version of the game like there doing players a service?
But hey, at least we get a barbershop and a paid boost to help with “world immersion”
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Not true at all. Many players may want to have a Dungeon or PvP spec and do one of those before say a raid, then once the raid is over in about say 3 hours on average. Then go back to PvPing, Dungeon or Questing spec. Any type of time gating on this just makes it a hinderance and takes away the spirit of dual spec to start with. While I do agree, the only restriction is that someone should be in a rested area or have the prep buff before a BG starts so they can quickly switch before the BG starts. IIRC, mind you its been 15 years or so at this point, that is how I remember it working before. No one was allowed to switch on the fly or in any instance without having to run out to a rested spot.
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You can sure bet most guilds will hyper min max and require this. Will a few not care? Sure, but most guilds that actually clear content will. Look at what happened in retail. This is the same reason drums needed to be nerfed in tbc, so guilds aren’t forcing everyone to be a profession they may have zero benefit from outside drums.
Sunwell will probably have guilds requesting people swap to alts depending on the fight.
Restricting dual spec will do nothing to stop min/max behavior. Merely makes it more difficult, and unfortunate for those getting two characters locked to one raid.
People have had 15 years to figure out how to push every advantage they can. Nothing will stop them.
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It won’t stop min max behavior, but it will make it much worse. You can’t force somebody who doesn’t have the right alt, or someone who doesn’t have the right alt geared, to change for specific sunwell fights. And even if they do, they will need specific gear from those fights on their main character. You can always force someone to play an off spec they don’t want to with an unrestricted duel spec. People will be required to maintain 2 specs and 2 sets of gear when they don’t want too. People will be forced to have 2 pve specs when they want 1 pvp spec or farm spec, and 1 pve spec, which defeats the primary purpose of duel spec which is eliminating the gold tax on pvpers and healers who have to constantly respec.
Can someone break it down for me how dual spec worked when it was first implemented? It’s been too long I don’t remember when things were tweaked etc.
You pay your 1000 gold to buy it, you then switch back and forth as much as you want. Thats about it.
Is there a cast? Could you do it anywhere and whether in or out or combat?
I only remember from Draenor/Legion where you activate a 10-second cast and it puts you in, say, restoration spec and drained all your mana. And I had to be in a rested area and I think if I zoned into a dungeon it automatically switched me to what I queued as and drained all my mana?
D-U-A-L. Dual spec. Not duel speck.
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yeah a cast; can’t do it in combat but I won’t confirm that, And you can switch right before the BG starts but not after.
That is as much as I remember.
This all came after MoP. Don’t remember it like that in Lich or Cata, but I can’t confirm anymore. Too long ago, and I quit right away into WoD.
Thanks. In that case I have nothing to contribute to this thread lol. I would be fine with whatever happens with dual-spec, and mildly annoyed but not deal-breakingly so if they didn’t put it in at all.
I can def. tell you dungeon-wise, you could switch in there all you want. I went in as healer but had to go enh a few times when the need called for it, and it worked out to the group’s benefit.
A CD is going to benefit, like all the unpopular changes that have gone on recently, only a select few.