The blue bar tells you exactly what post out of how many you’re on.
The issue I think people are having is that the browser scroll bar doesn’t sync up well with the blue bar.
Okay, so what’s the reason for wanting to find that post on page 4?
To check for replies? Notification system does it for you now. No need to manually check.
Because you want to continue reading where you left off in general? Threads automatically remember the last post you got to now. I believe it puts you there automatically, but if not, it marks the scrollbar where it was.
If you just need your own post to link at someone 3 weeks later, or something similar, it’d likely be faster to find it in your (now properly functional) search history anyway. Or to bookmark the post if you had the foresight to realize you might want it later.
If you truly prefer the old version, that’s fine, but I’m still trying to understand this.
Skipping to the last page or 2 in the paged version still required loading, right? Why is the quick Blizzard loading icon popping up when you click straight to the bottom any worse?
I still understand you’re not using this as a reason it’s bad, but is this just an aesthetic thing or is there something I’m missing?
Pretty much aesthetic. My browser page going white for one second was less irritating than seeing the blue wheel constantly spinning.
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When I skip to the bottom I get a tiny fraction of a second of Blizz icon loading and then never again since I’m near enough the end and it’s all loaded. Maybe that’s an internet speed thing at that point, not sure. In any case I’ll drop that topic, you made your point.
I guess I’d compare it to checkpoints vs. marathons. It’s one thing to see 10 pages. It’s another to see 100 posts. Especially if I’m trying to find a specific post. I suppose my point is organization is useful.
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Fair enough, I could see that, although I’d still imagine that’s just a matter of getting used to what we see now and learning that “13 pages” is no longer the metric for a long thread, it’s now “150 posts” or however many it would be.
Generally organization would be for finding specific posts right? Is it a fair assumption to say that nearly all posts you might be looking for are either your own posts or replies to your own posts?
If yes, then doesn’t the notification system and/or post history as well as the auto-bookmarking your last read post thing pretty much cover it better than looking at a thread that has grown since you last saw it and thinking to yourself “I think I posted on page 7, maybe?”
If no, wouldn’t the bookmark function cover most other scenarios?
I suppose you could have skimmed a thread and vaguely remembered something you didn’t give a 2nd thought to on the first read a few days later that you never responded to and you -might- have a vague idea of a page number in your head and it might be slightly easier to recall a page number up to 26 vs a post number in the hundreds. How common are we presuming this scenario is though – including actually remembering enough about the post in question to narrow it down to a page number in the old system? Is there a more realistic and universally applicable scenario I’m not thinking of?
Edit: Gonna hit the sack for tonight folks.
Almost every Logitech mouse released in the last 4 years has a scroll unlock button which allows the mouse wheel to free float when scrolling.
Think the Price is Right wheel. Just spinning and spinning and spinning.
The problem is that we already have a side scroll bar…from the default browser.
Do we really need another small blue bar within another bar?
Maybe if the website creators aren’t stupid, they would have used the left and right edge properly, it would be more pleasing to the eyes instead of this infinity scroll and compressed look. Infinity scroll would work if they have used the left and right spacing correctly.
A lot of us use 27-32’’ wide-screen, but the website devs squeezed everything into the middle like we are using a mobile phone.
Now we have 5inches on both side of NOTHINGNESS, and a bunch of UI/box/words in the middle while we infinity scroll down and looking at the cluster-**** and ugliness with each post.
We aren’t living in the 90s Geocities website of designing 101 Blizzard.
Get with the time.
Monitors are getting bigger.
Widescreen and resolution are getting higher.
And now, you guys are going back to 90s website designing.
Who did you outsource your website team to?
A 3rd world country that never uses or sees a monitor bigger than 13"?
It would make sense if that is the case since they probably tested the website on their 10" screen and seeing that the centralize and compressed text boxes look decent on their end.
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I’m going to be honest. This whole exercise just feels bizarre. It’s even in your title. “Convince me that a scroll is worse than a novel.” It’s… just a weird feeling to defend the concept of a book. I have no doubt I’ll get used to the forum layout with time, but… Wow this is weird…
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At least they serve the whole Forums as a JSON now, so I (and anyone else who can develop web sites, for that matter) can design my very own forums they way I like and just link back to this one to fill in the blanks with the object data and for replying.
It could be done with the previous one too, but getting and formatting the data was a pain.
To counter this specific argument, you now have the ability to bookmark a post to come back to it on these fora and the tracking is very much improved from before. Additionally, on the blue scroll bar, you’ll see a “back” icon if you revisit a thread that lets you get right back to where you were before. That is definitely an improvement.
My quarrel is mostly on the resource side and the general “where did that post go” for others’ posts. But I’ll just have to start learning to bookmark posts or threads whose conversation I want to keep an eye on.
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Oh, and I’ll just leave this here for those that think infinite scrolling is better than pages:
https://i.imgur.com/EXiCgts.pngI agree on this point it eats up too much ram.
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It eats CPU too as you can see. I caught the screenshot at the end of the scroll. Just prior to that it was reading 145% CPU (1.45 cores). For one forum thread.
Now, try that on a mobile device… ![:slight_smile:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/slight_smile.png?v=6" ":slight_smile:")
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Because it is annoying having a never ending scroll instead of a nice organised page with numbers and a set amount of posts per page.
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lol @ endless scrolling and not pages.
Okay here is the truth, these days I don’t actually read most of the posts, only in smaller threads like I got in the games forum and movies forum where people don’t talk that much, but on threads on general page, stuff it, I’m not endlessly scrolling…
I ignored most of this thread, I’m simply responding to the OP and that’s it.
Just the act of scrolling up and down in this thread is creating multiple pages in my phone’s browsing history. I don’t pretend to be a computer expert. In fact I doubt you could find a person more likely to search for the “any” key. But that does not sound very efficient.
Between the replies that are posted at the end without quotes so you have no clue which post they are replying to and the never ending-ness of a very long thread, I just get completely lost especially if I come back to the thread. Then sometimes on my phone it scrolls too far up and I can’t ever get back to where I was.
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I hated pages, the infinite scroll is my favorite part of the new forum so far.
Overall, I think it makes it harder to reference where you are on the “page” now when reading through the thread. I’ve noticed if someone is replying in the thread as you are reading, it causes the page to move and you have to scroll up and down to find out where you were reading which can be difficult sometimes, especially if further replies occur.
I also think it’s going to hurt the discussion process as some might read the OP and then just use the right hand bar to quickly go to the end and reply. Many might think “why read through these replies when it involves all this scrolling” which will lead to less robust discussions.
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