Continual Player Feedback

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Ongoing Player Feedback that has been clearly ignored, and not taken into account for Warcraft Direct. Every single one of these points has been talked about for a year+ and has thus far been completely left off the table at all.

  • Server Longevity: If a new Hardcore server is to be made, you should also be combining the Skull Rock and Defias servers to help keep their communities alive, while offering new experiences to the new HC server that are different options.

  • Hardcore Progression: Why bring in a brand new Hardcore progression server that stops at Vanilla content? Progression players want to progress.

  • Petri Flask Abuse: This is legit the same thing as a Bubble Hearth and a large portion of the Hardcore community has for a long time said Petri Flasks are cheapening the experience and people are over abusing them rather than playing the game the way it was intended. This would also be a second reason why someone would choose the new server over the old ones creating a place for everyone.

  • The Burning Crusade Server: Why are we not getting a Era TBC server now? We’ve been asking for one for literal years, and for you all to instead bring out yet another Classic Vanilla to TBC progression server instead of s simple TBC era server is a slap in the face. merge some of these servers and free up a server for TBC and TBC HC players.

  • Server Merges: Merge all existing Classic/Era servers for longevity. Open up new servers for other experiences that you’re not offering currently such as TBC and Wrath Era servers that stay with that content.

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They dont want to work, they want to just paste the same server for everyone to play on with minimal actual effort and coding.

Besides when they DO actually try to do something it turns into SoD where they over tune everything and can’t figure out how to balance it for PvP

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It feels like this version of the game is ran entirely by the marketing department

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This is not good feedback and is misleading. Anti Petri flask rhetoric comes almost exclusively from a lack of experience in actually playing the game and has more to do with their romantic “pure” vision of the game.

Blizzard, please disregard this part of the feedback. The rest is fine.

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Beta 2004
welcome to World of Wacraft son

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Hey same here.

Mind logging on your raid toon? I can come over and check.

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As you know, characters progression doesnt carry over to different accounts. I have no reason to doubt you, nor should you me.
However to say that experience with not playing is what leads players to be anti Petri is a strawman.

Trump: You know, They know it, and everyone knows it.

Tell me why Banning Paladins Bubble is any different than banning a Petri Flask, they both get you out of jail for free.

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That’s a lot of words for someone who doesn’t participate in end game content.

If you actually played the game you’d understand that Petri is not a problem and the “problems” that come with it do not exist.

They are made up.

Please grow and improve as an orc.

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Sorry, if 10 seconds of reading is a lot of words then that’s a you issue.
I guarantee my record rivals yours, I’m just not a beta nerd who thinks it represents my life and have to prove anything to feel good about myself.

Oh it’s a problem when every single HC raiding video I see is a tons of screw up pulls or mistakes with only 1 or 2 deaths because everyone else Petri Flasked out. It’s ridiculous to defend your position, and more than half of the people I speak to think it’s lame and players should not be able to cheese the system when they would have otherwise died.

Gnomes xD

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we’re laughing right now

See, look, you don’t even participate in the content you want changed, this is bizzaro world. You simply do not have the experience or understanding to be advocating for changes like these.

No one in my groups criticized it, except for one person as he was leveling. When he started getting invited into raid groups, suddenly he “understood” why petrification flasks are important.

Because the people I know actually play the game, my anecdotal evidence weighs more than yours.

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This statement is simply because I am showing that it is too widely used because it is allowed. If every video I see involves the use of petri when it owuld have otherwise been a wipe, then it’s being abused far past its intended use case.

I have not raided yet in HC WoW, I don’t think that the prep involved is something I would want to sign up for after doing the SoD raids, and have less time now. however that will be changing when I go into this new HC Fresh server, and I sure would like a server that treats petri the same as paladin bubble hearth because they’re the same exact thing.

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Hello, again Majat. I’m glad you reconsidered on storming off.

If you would have been involved in the prep for Hardcore raids you would have understood the effort that goes into getting a reliable roster going, and that Petri’s are far from a guarantee that you will be saved. SoD raiding is an absolute joke and it is humiliating that you’re bringing it into this topic like it matters.

The whole thing against Petri’s is that they supposedly “trivialize” content, but we have well geared raids wiping on trash. We have bosses that kill you through Petris. We have fully geared characters dying outside of raids, dying inside basic 5 mans. All of that is happening right now with Petris in play.

The only thing that Petri removal would do is guarantee that at some point (sooner rather than later) people will stop raiding, stop playing the game as a whole and the people who petition for the removal of petrification flasks will be nowhere to be seen.

World of Warcraft endgame is very binary when it comes to what a wipe is. Doors shut, there are no leash ranges, and there are no escapes. Having 40 people die guaranteed because of the opinions of some guy that’s never put in the effort to even try to participate is asinine.

Wanting to get rid of it comes from a place of wanting World of Warcraft to be a “pure,” or “real” experience, when the actual game and the stakes behind it would be completely unchanged from where it is now, only now that a random bug or a family emergency will render the game over for dozens of other, more dedicated people than yourself.

You’re not even right here. I’ve seen the guild chat explode with F’s from raiders dying in raids. And from the same videos you reference, you see huge wipes happen all the time. This is with petri in play.

I don’t bring up your lack of experience because I think you’re not deserving of being heard, but because feedback that is not based on actually playing and experiencing the games you play is worse than useless, it’s outright harmful. I encourage you to seek out raiding in Hardcore in the future not just because it would help you understand why petri’s aren’t nearly as bad as you think, but because it’s fun.

Rhetoric like yours about petris does not exist in-game. It exists only on these forums and YouTube Hardcore death compilation videos.

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alright, I see your points.
I will need to raid HC before I can say one way or another.

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I sincerely hope you have fun doing so. The thrill of double-checking you’re in the right position so you don’t get 100-0’d into Elwynn Forest is a rush. Seeing your guildmates all in one instance and hoping everyone goes through alive is a blast.

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I appreciate your willingness to explain things to me.
I actually kinda got a bit excited to Raid on this Fresh HC server even if they keep Petri.

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You will love it. I recommend tanking or running a warlock. Something that will be in demand so you can help fill out rosters and keep your spot in a raid. Make that money and save it for your alt or your next main when you inevitably die.

I wish you luck and that you have fun playing this wonderful game.

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Thanks for the tips, I have tanked a lot but never in raids (as usually tank spots were filled and they needed dps warrs) and I have also played Warlocks so Im def down to give it a shot.

you as well.

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you literally have no idea what you’re talking about, Blizzard disregard this