Consolidate 'On a Pale Horse' and 'Death Charge'! (and add more colours)

It is pointless though. It doesn’t matter if you feel like it isn’t. It’s a pointless talent made redundant before it was even released.

Its just for looks and to hype people up for the expansion and now people have an issue with it. So many got blinded by combat on horsie that they didn’t care about the requirement in it’s use.

The testing phase is over.

Why you here defending bad game design. Merging On a Pale Horse and Death Charge would be a plus for everyone and change literally nothing to your life. Just arguing for the sake of arguing.

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And nothing is harming your life with them being split. Please have an argument that can’t be used right back at you.

It’s a 4 second cast for a look that you don’t need.

Yes it does, we have to switch between the flavor talent and the useful talent every time depending on the content. Chilling and questing ? On a Pale Horse. Delves, Dungeon and PVP ? Death Charge.

Whatever you think mounted combat shouldn’t exist or that 4sec CD is nothing is completely irrelevant. Like I said just arguing for something that would change nothing for you.

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No, it isn’t harming your life. Again, it’s flavor.

If you are worried about saving time just fly.

Maybe you guys should have spoken up during alpha and beta.

Not only is it infuriating that it’s a choice node given the mounted combat element is the core fantasy of the hero class, they need to ease the limitations on it ASAP.

Not being able to use it in places like the Maw, Korthia, or Timeless Isle is nonsense. Right now, it may as well be called, “Friend of the Riders of the Apocalypse”, 'cause the game does not want you to be a rider.

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It was never about the DK being a rider but calling the riders. The name doesn’t fit the design. It should be like herald or harbinger.

"My name is Bumbus, and I am here to argue vehemently against fun for no other reason than I am a contrarian pimple.

Game design should not prioritize fun, it should prioritize whatever I feel at the moment which is only determined by what the majority would find fun. I pick the opposite. For I am Bumbus."

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Why are you lot just toxic as hell? That’s why you shouldn’t get what you want. Your behavior shouldn’t be rewarded because you don’t want to swap talents for a flavor option. The only reason why you would be using it is just because you want to, it isn’t needed what so ever. So if you want to use it then go through the process of changing your talents.

I think everyone is just a bit confused by why you’re so adamantly defending the way it is, what do you think the downside of them changing it would be :o ? The devs change talents all the time, it’s not like it too late or would be too difficult. It seems like everyone except you thinks it’d be beneficial, what’s wrong with wanting more flavour and convenience? D: Genuine question!

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Why can’t you be happy you have flavor and why didn’t you guys bring this up during testing?

On a Paler Horse is just flavor, a type of transmog just for open world content. There is no need for the talent and it doesn’t make anything more convenient. If you are looking to reduce downtime it’s all dragonriding and Death Charge.

You guys are also asking something that is probably impossible.

should use my regular mount on my hotbar.

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It’s Kelliste. According to them they’re the only person that ever brings up issues and nobody listens to them, or something.

In reality, a pretty decent number of people put them on forum ignore after some time in here. They’re just incredibly antagonistic and contrarian on most topics.

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No. I don’t see the issue with a choice. But of course people get a choice and then it’s "I don’t want to make a choice I want everything consolidated into 1 thing.

Complaining about a 4 second activation that at this point or any point really should be a no pick unless you just want to use it. It’s no different than wanting a certain look for your gear which arguably takes as long or longer.

If this is what DK has to complain about then DK life is pretty good that people have to hunt for something to attempt to change.

Why does it need to be all into 1 talent when there are probably issues as to why it’s split. For instance, what happens if you use Deaths Charge when on your Acherus Charger? Does it just kick you off and you have to remount? Does it just not work? Does it turn into GA when you mount on the Charger?

Oh yeah so easy to make them 1 button! No issues at all. You guys just can’t be happy with having the option that people have said it’s LITERALLY harming their life.

I rarely come to the forums, but after seeing a few posts from them and a couple others, I’m glad permanent ignore is a thing. Having disagreements is fine, but being antagonistic or downright nasty to people earns an instant ignore.

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Maybe they can have an option to mog the horse to any mount that a player has collected.

I’d like to be able to mog the death charge horse to an alpaca so that I can be a rider of the alpacalypse.

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This doesn’t really answer my question…! :o
but I am very happy with it :slight_smile: I can be happy with something and still suggest an improvement! and I think most people feel the same way!
I think it’s a bit silly because we’re sort of on the same page, I agree it doesn’t need to be a talent, but I still really enjoy it, especially being on an RP server, so I think it should be consolidated into the other talent, I really enjoy the choices of the skill tree that’s what makes it fun, this one just feels like a non-choice, that I’d like to have the flavour of without sacrificing the usable ability. I really don’t think anything is impossible ! :smiley:

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It’s flavor. If you want flavor then deal with the activation for that flavor.

But again how would it work? So you get on your Acherus mount, what happens with Death Charge? Does it kick you off your mount? Does it change to GA? Does it provide movement speed increase while on the mount? Would Deaths Charge just turn into a freedom?

Or, you could just swap talents. Instead of asking for something that might be entirely impossible.

I think it would be pretty simple and work exactly how ‘Death’s Advance’ currently does when you use on the ‘On a Paler Horse’ Deathcharger, and just give you the speed boost and resistances while remaining mounted :slight_smile: (I think would also make pale horse much for fun for open world! and be able to compete with just flying all over) and if the 100% speed boost would be too much, it could easily say something along the lines of “Reduced to 50% while on your Deathcharger”.
I think the devs are very talented and would be able to make something like this happen very easily, they rework talents all the time!

We already have On a Pale Horse baseline. Blizzard really need to stop with things that are so close together.

So you get mounted combat and then another movie speed on top of that? Not going to happen.

You give these devs much too credit. They are still working out the bugs, you guys are paying to beta test their game still.

Reworking of talents means that the talent is a failure or else it wouldn’t need to be reworked.