What do you mean by us already having Pale Horse baseline? :o
Why wouldn’t we get mounted combat and a speed boost? We already have that with the way it is currently, just as I explained, they could even make it 35% while mounted, so its the same as it is right now.
I think the devs are doing great, and you can rework talents for any reason, if you’re stingy about the word rework you can even say adjusting or buffing the talent 
Have you ever heard the turn of phrase ‘Flavor is free’? It’s a harmless request, tbh.
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I, too, get unreasonably upset and thrown into an acoustic rage when Magic:The Gathering cards have mechanics text AND flavor text.
Just… Pick one, dang it!! My brain gets set on fire when I have to read plain and THEN ITALICIZED text!!!
Creature cards should either do something or be a vanilla meatball! You can’t have something cool that also does something useful!
Reeeeee
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On a Pale Horse is baseline.
Rider has On a Paler Horse.
Why wouldn’t you get mounted combat and a speed boost? Because the mounted combat is already a speed boost?
Flavor isn’t free.
Mounted combat, which you cannot use in any relevant content. It’s really a harmless request.
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What’s so harmful about swapping talents if you want that flavor?
Bro you need to stop.
People don’t want to swap talent everytime that’s all. They want to enjoy both. It’s harmless, reasonable and breaks nothing.
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Then swap talents. It’s really not that hard.
I remember, now. Kelliste is a bull-headed troll. Been awhile since I’ve been in these parts!
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I think this is the case, he doesn’t quite seem to make sense… maybe because he is level 70 and hasn’t used the talents? I’m unsure I’m assuming he has an alt, but hopefully the engagement boosts the chances of the devs seeing this and considering the change, he’s potentially doing us a favour! Haha
My apologies I meant on a ‘Paler’ Horse. I’m realizing what you meant. If you re-read what I posted with that context that should help you understand better!
As I’ve mentioned a few times now, the game already has mounted combat and a speed boost. When you use Death’s Advance during mounted combat you get an additional 35%, this is already in the game. If they were to combine the abilities it could very easily work the exact same way.
There isn’t anything harmful about swapping talents (other then being a bit tedious at times and some situations where you can’t swap after entering content), but there also isn’t anything harmful about combining them I think it would make the game more fun, both can be true at the same time.
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Oh I understand what you meant, but the fact is Blizzard creates these terms that are so close that when new players come in and they see you talking about On a Pale Horse and they look at their passives you don’t look like someone trustworthy. Just like Obliterate and Obliteration.
The game has only just not gotten Mounted Combat and it’s been like a month and people are already unhappy with it’s implementation. Where was your feedback during alpha and beta?
If there isn’t anything harmful about swapping talents then this entire exercise is pretty pointless even though others have said it was harmful to their lives that they had to go through 4 seconds of activation. Cancer is harmful to your life, not some talent swap.
And again, you are probably asking for something that is impossible. if you are already mounted and use Death Charge you are assuming a lot. Death Charge would probably kick you off your mount because you are being put on another mount. Do you want to remount every time? If you are on a paladin, mounted, and use Steed, what happens?
Preach sister
I agree having such similar talent and ability names is a bit confusing for discussions like this.
I didn’t part take in the alpha and beta, but now that it’s released and I have been playing at max level for a bit, this idea came to mind because been swapping back and forth a lot, and I was finding that a bit annoying, but obviously not world ending.
I think it’s possible! Maybe that’s something we can agree to disagree on but I think they could make it so Death Charge only gives you a speed boost while mounted (Similar to Deaths Advance) or do it’s current effect if you’re not mounted.
A lot of people didn’t play alpha or beta but they still gave feedback.
Why exactly do people say agree to disagree? If there is a disagreement isn’t that 2 people agreeing that they disagree?
Just because you think it’s possible doesn’t mean it is possible.
When you use Steed on a paladin while you are mounted, what happens? It takes you off of your mount. Death Charge gives DK steed and it giving you steed will probably kick you off of your mount and then you shift the complaint from “4 second talent swap sucks” to “having to remount every time I use Deaths Charge while mounted sucks!”. Take your pick. You want to just swap talents or have to remount constantly?
I think people say to agree to disagree in situations like this where it’s a matter of opinion, and it’s not worth talking on it further and neither’s views will change, it’s more of a double entendre to say “let’s move on” then it is a literal phrase. For instance, I am not a dev so I don’t really know their capabilities, but I can make a guess based on the fact they are able to create entire new expansions and systems, that it’s within their capabilities to make something like this possible! Just as you can make a guess it wouldn’t be possible based on other classes.
But I do think the Steed on paladin is different situation, as they can’t use their mounts in combat the same way as On a Paler Horse allows you too, but if I did have to take a pick the second one would be my preferred choice
Then just move on.
Being on a mount is being on a mount. Steed still places you on something else whether on a mount or not, just like Death Charge places you on another mount. Why wouldn’t Death Charge kick you off your mount? But you don’t want Death Charge to act like Death Charge changing what it is and does based on conditions saying they can do it because they create expansions.
An expansion and the way an ability works are vastly different. It’s like saying since we can build buildings then we should be able to drill to the center of the earth. They really don’t have anything to do with each other.
You would rather continuously mount up every time you used Death Charge defeating the purpose of not wanting to waste time to just waste time mounting up? Like… What?
Do you guys read what you type? “I don’t want to waste time by wasting time” “this is literally harming my life!”. No one should take any of these requests seriously. One makes absolutely no sense and the other is a hyperbolic nonsense statement acting like a victim because that’s all modern audiences can do.
I will continue to think it’s a good idea but thank you for your input! 
The developers also made the abilities too, not just the expansion! They can make them do anything, that’s the beauty of game development!
I think you may be projecting and putting a lot of negative intentions where there isn’t any D: Not all suggestions are complains! Just ideas and how to make things more fun!
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Yes, Blizzard made the abilities and you don’t like how they did it. So if you are trying to tell me that I should accept Blizzards design then that can be applied to you as well.
This is how they designed it and if you want that flavor then activate it just like someone that would have to activate if they want an aoe build or a ST build.
Kind of funny how people want choice, and they get it, they then want to reduce that choice because… Too many choices?
it’s effectively an RP talent because let’s face it nobody is going to be using this even in open world, because it lacks skyriding/flying. And as such, since it is an RP talent, merging it together with the main ability is net no harm since even WITH it most people still aren’t going to use it.
Moreover, its existence is of no benefit and all it does is acts as a wasted talent node.
Kelliste I challenge you to argue against the benefit of freeing up that node for something more meaningful instead.