Disclaimer: I meant for this build video to be used as more of a guide for people who have never done their own build before. I am not advising anyone to go with the parts I selected. I went with some of the highest quality components possible.
So with all these new GPUs and CPUs coming out this month? I figured there may be a few people doing new builds. There may also be some people considering their first build but are nervous having never done one before. So I figured this Guide I made would help familiarize them with the process
In my opinion you should never go prebuilt. Its too easy to build your own rig and get higher quality components for a much cheaper price. What I want more than anything is to educate the community on how to do their own builds and put those pre-built systems out of business. I have been doing custom builds for quite some time. So if anyone has any questions please reply to this thread and I will reply to your questions.
I know this build is total overkill for wow but I do play a lot of more demanding games also. I also like doing builds that will last people for the next 3-5years having to upgrade nothing. Also knowing the parts are high quality and wont crap out on them
FYI Both Amazon and Bestbuy are extending their return Policys into January for any parts you buy now! So now may be a good time to consider a new build
This build cost me roughly $1700 considering I did get some discounts on the parts. I bought all these parts on Amazon.
Video: Zotac RTX 2080 (using temporarily until I can get a RTX 3080)
PS> I plan on Doing a similar build with AMD once the Ryzen 9 5900x Launches on Nov 5th if I wind up liking the gaming Benchmarks otherwise it will be an i9 10900k Build video.
As I said above if you are new to building computers or are confused on what parts to select go ahead and reply to this thread and I will do my best to answer all your questions.
I have removed that comment from my original post. It was a very opinionated statement and I’m sorry for making it I will try and remain more objective in the future.
My whole point in making this thread was to educate people in the process of doing their own build who were maybe considering it but were afraid to do so.
you know your stuff, and like I stated I personally prefer building my own (mainly because I like choosing my own parts and I’m cheap) but some people just don’t have the time to build, causes too much anxiety, or just don’t care to. All valid personal reasons to buy a pre-built and after all most of us who do build got started tinkering with our pre-builts.
I want to do an AMD build video next. I’m hoping that I am going to be able to get my hands on a Ryzen 9 5900x Thursday. Hopefully they don’t instantly sell out at Launch.
I really hope Zen 3 does not turn into a myth like the RTX 3080 cards
Good luck but I would not hold my breath on getting one. I currently have little faith in AMD or Nvidia providing us adequate quantities on their products.
They’ll probably still face the same issues to an extent, but my understanding is TSMC is able to have better supply than Samsung at this point. Whether it’s enough to satisfy demand (or bots) is another question.
As I said in my original post if I can’t get my hands on one I’m just going to do an i9 10900k video instead. I have one on hold at Best Buy if I get my hands on a 5900x I’ll cancel that order. If not I’ll go pick it up.
Unlike my last rig I don’t plan on selling this one. It’s going to be my personal gaming rig
In gaming you won’t notice a difference at all between the 8700k. You literally have no reason to upgrade. Unless you went to a 5900x or i9 10900k. Even then you wouldnt notice a difference in gaming but you would notice a difference in overall user experience on your computer. Because you would have more cores
Yep. Im starting to think it may be best to just go with a i9 10900k build anyway. The processor is 58$ cheaper than the 5900x and motherboard is $10 cheaper. Plus I have a slight upgrade path. 12th gen is a 1200 socket. With AMD the 5900x is last AM4.
I am in between builds at the moment so I’m doing the new-build no matter what. I have done many ryzen builds for people however my personal rigs have always been Intel and was leaning towards train team red for once.
With that said… going with the I9 10900k saves me 70 bucks and gives me a slight upgrade path considering Intel’s 12th gen is going to be the same socket however with AMD I will be forced to get a new motherboard when their new processor comes out.
I’d say it’s worth the wait to see how well AMD performs and its availability.
Although the 10900k may perform closely to the 5800x, it may be that PCIE4 and stuff like SAM will be more beneficial later on. Especially with Microsoft Direct Storage.
Even though Rocket Lake chips will probably support PCIE4 on Z490 boards, the question becomes “will you really upgrade?”
People talk a lot about upgrade path but the most often reality is people just stick with whatever they got for a long time until they need to upgrade pretty much everything.
For example I could have upgraded to a 9900k, but I didn’t. And even now, I’m looking at the 5800x…Even if it’s up to 20% faster at gaming than my 5ghz 8700k, is that enough? Will PCIE4 be enough to make the upgrade worth it? The fact I have to really ask this question probably means I don’t need to upgrade, or at best the upgrade isn’t really worth it.
The next question is: So if we’re going with the assumption that you won’t really be upgrading within a generation…does it matter if you can upgrade to Rocket Lake?
The third question: Is $70 or so spent now worth the prospect of “someday” upgrading to Rocket Lake w/PCIE4, if stuff like Microsoft Direct Storage becomes a thing?
I’d say for most people who buy now, they’re better off spending a few bucks more on the latest technology (within reason) and not sweat upgrading later. Just don’t worry about it.
And that means (as long as reviews support it) probably the 5800x for an all-round do-it-all CPU.
-High single threaded performance
-Extra cores for more growth in application usage (if you decide to do other stuff besides gaming)
-PCIE4
-SAM w/AMD Radeon
If I can get my hands on a Ryzen 9 5900x Thursday? Ryzen. If it instantly sells out and become somewhat of a myth like graphics cards? Intel it is. Probably the smartest decision I can make.
I find it funny how when doing builds for customers I know exactly what parts to pick with 100% certainty. However when doing a personal rig I second-guess myself on every single component about a million times
The issue becomes what you use your CPU for and what real world performance it can give you. Let’s take your current set up for example, OC 8700 & RX 5700XT @ 1440p & 144hz refresh. If you planned to keep your 5700XT for several years and not replace it before you do a whole new build then the 9900k, 10900k, or Ryzen 5900x would make little real world difference for you in gaming (you already know this). If the 5900x (or any other CPU) is 20% faster then the OC 8700k the question of upgrading becomes 1) what GPU do you need to show off that 20% increase and at what point in your upgrade path will you get to that GPU performance? If you need RTX 3090 performance to see that 20% CPU gaming increase yet it will take you three more GPU upgrades just to get to that performance level at which point you plan a whole platform upgrade than you really won’t see the CPU benefit in gaming. 2) will your monitor be able to handle that kind of performance? I see this all the time, 9900k CPU, RTX 2070 Super GPU, …1080p 60hz monitor. “LOL, I’m getting like 200FPS in Fortnite!”…
Now upgrading because you like having high benchmarks, enjoy bragging about your high end build, or just because you feel like upgrading are all valid reasons to upgrade. My point is more on the actual real world performance of some of these builds.
