To all the players out there who have been complaining about not getting selected for groups be prepared for that being much much worse since Blizzard is now punishing people who leave keys. From now on I will only run my own key and I will be extremely selective with who I take in my key. I will take zero chances. I am certain many other players will say the same. There are many legitimate reasons to leave a key. When people get to the point where they are only in the key to farm crests as quickly as possible it is completely unfair to force those players to stay in groups that are painfully slow to progress in the dungeon or simply not geared or skilled enough and causing wipes. Forcing players to stay in bad key runs will be very detrimental to the whole mythic plus experience for many players.
Glad I stop playing mythic plus in shadowland
Ya’all fussing over nothing. If you didn’t get banned this time, you’re not in danger of being banned for the same behavior. They banned the outright griefers, not all you crazy doomers.
so is bricking someone’s key when you’re the one who messes up and then rages out and leaves.
Talk about hyperbolic.
Were you suspended? If not, you are not their target and you can continue with your pattern behavior.
The suspensions were clearly not a result of leaving keys on it’s own. They stated multiple times that it’s players who left keys exceedingly frequently and had malicious intent.
They stated in the same post that they understand valid reasons for people to leave.
Again, this is for frequent leavers with malicious intent who got reported enough times to get flagged.
There are people out there who just join keys all day and then leave just to grief keyholders. That’s who these bans are targeting. Not the guy who leaves after a wipe.
However if you’re one of those guys who leaves after a single death, you might have something to worry about.
They should do something about that though. Getting to last boss or second last boss with 16 mins left and have one wipe and “that guy” leaves instantly when we still have 14 minutes to try again. Pretty toxic or annoying if you ask me.
Play it out or don’t join groups. Play your own key if you want to rage out.
How often is this happening? Not very. The exception is not the rule. There can be no system that catches every bad thing. Tighter restraints and punishments will only lead to also harming innocent players in other ways.
In your example, the overwhelming majority of times someone leaves at the last boss with 10+ minutes remaining is if someone opens their mouth and points fingers.
I mostly do my own keys. But Im only doing it to farm crests. Was farming 4s. Now Im farming 8s. If we wipe early I will leave my own key most of the time because I need quick crests. Im not wasting my time for 5 crests in a run. If a group wipes early there is clearly a problem.
You’re not wrong. I might start doing that.
Let’s put it this way, if you aren’t banned now, you will be fine under this new system. This is for the people who join multiple keys in a row and either immediately brick key by dropping it or leaving after the first wipe kind of pull. Upper keys as long as no one is reporting each other and it was consented that the run is over then everyone can leave.
In all my time doing mythic plus I have never had a player who joined simply to grief and leave and Ive been doing m+ since it started in Legion. Plenty of people have left but not one has left like right after starting the key.
I host my own keys, if my healer dies 8x within the pulls up to the 1st boss I’m out of that nonsense. It’s my key, I can tank it if I want.
no they’re not.
agreed. good thing that’s not what’s happening!
They just need to remove the key depleted penalty.
In raids and delves, there are also people who want to leave midway, yet there’s no such issue there.
People just hate having their key downgraded by -1.
No, they should not. Removing it would add more issues than it would solve. This suggestion has been beaten to death over a 1000 times.
There is NO reason for key depletion and it makes NO sense whatsoever. You already had to time the level just below to get to where you are. Should be NO penalty at all except that your key doesnt upgrade. That would eliminate most of the toxicity buit into the mythic plus system.
There clearly is a reason and your inability to acknowledge them means you are arguing in bad faith. There’s negatives to keys depleting, but they are there for a reason and does provide benefits. Removing depletions still gain some short term benefits and a whole host of additional negatives.
not agreeing with your point of view doesn’t mean he’s making a bad faith argument, geez.
I dont think removing the depletion would prevent ppl from leaving. but i think it would stop the complaining and baying for blood of leavers.
i disagree. it would solve more problems than it would cause.