Congrats. You got Convoke nerfed. See you next week when you still die to it and cry

Classes Druid
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Full moon made for some flashy videos, but its not the nerf you think it is. Just means more Starsurges, which im fine with :smiley:

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Agreed, all these nerds that cried for a nerf and they took out full moon? Lol, I can count the times I’ve seen a full moon proc on my fingers and toes, so removing it ain’t nothing lol. Ppl will still get one shot by it because guess what it’s the interaction of incarn/convoke that makes it op.

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Agreed lol. Just glad its a pvp only nerf. Idc if they nerf it but balance isnt impressive without it lol. So burst phase heavy.

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Yeah this change does basically nothing to Balance in PvP, I don’t know why they’re doing it.

Starsurge hitting for like 17k+ and being able to shoot multiple before, during and after convoke is what kills people… Not the super low chance of getting a Full Moon.

Getting a Full Moon felt like a win more situation rather than turning the tide of anything… If it was just another Starsurge in its place, that person is still dead.

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Probably just a nerf to make people think they are trying.

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I’m happy with it. I was considering playing pally more but there nerf is hard. Surprised sub didn’t get any nerf

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it was a fair nerf

I just wish they took full moon off of double lockout so we could actually take the talent

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As a PvE player that’s the only thing I worry about when people complain about convoke in PvP.

I rarely PvP, haven’t even done it on this druid since BFA and only did two BGs total in SL (and lagged so hard in both I quit) on any toons. I like convoke in PvE. It’s nice for farming skins and it’s great for Torghast and raids.

I don’t wanna see it destroyed in PvE for PvP reasons. If they can change convoke in a way that balances PvP without hurting PvE, then I’ll be happy.

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I think they should’ve done my other change but removing full moon from pvp was my 2nd change I advocated for and perhaps it’ll help.

I mean most “unreactable” burst came from travel times syncing up with moon and starsurge hitting at the same time since moon is so fast. This will obviously alleviate that and tone down the 20k+ hits it gives plus the splash. Sad to see it go but it’s fair to be honest. Good they left it in pve of course.

People will still cry for sure but they’ll cry about anything they die to. No one blames themselves anymore.

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I mean that’s the reality, even with the nerf, you’ll still see some pleb crying about boomies. “WAHHH starsurge crit me back to back for 15k” when in reality it only does that with incarn up and trinkets popped, like an actual CD, WOW.

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This won’t be that bad. Other than spell flight dunking people because of how full moon casts work, you probably won’t even notice much.

It might hurt a little in RBGs. 3’s will probably be largely unaffected and 2s probably won’t change at all, but we aren’t that strong in 2s anyway

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Plebs will still cry about convoke even after the “nerf” lol. I love to be showered in the tears of complaining, degenerate, noobs

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Yup they need to remove star surges from it or put it after 2 secs into the cast. The nerf is not enough to put it in line with other covenant abilities .

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Doesn’t removing a spell from the pool just increase the probability for Starsurge to proc over lesser spells? Unless there’s a cap on Starsurges, it sounds like a super low key buff.

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It’s almost always the other way around in wow. Don’t worry. Pvp always suffers due to Pve.

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Its not a buff. A spell that was already hitting hard now gets replaced by either a hard hitting spell or a tickle spell. So how does that equal a buff to you? Even if the stars aligned and every full moon became a stars surge it would still be less damage.

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It’s not a buff… its just really not consequential.

I mean… getting the full moon is great, but it’s not that much better than a starsurge. I get like 4-5 of them sometimes, when I convoke in boomkin, as a guardian, so if there is a starsurge cap its at least 5… but I doubt there is. So… that part at least could be legitimately nerfed and I would say that would be fair.

Of all the things they could do to nerf it this is definitely the most mild.

Now we get to say “Lol nub dye 2 conv0ke p0st-nherf” so… I think it might be a buff to our bragging at least.

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Congrats on your 1350 arena rating and zero rating other than that. You sure showed us.

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Meanwhile in 1 shots… rextroy has some fun things to say about DHs.

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I have yet to see a full moon in PvE.

I think they just outright removed it.