Why are people complaining. I don’t know much about this game. Do they get superior gear in that area and are going to wipe us out on PVP?
It was a certain catch up mechanic installed later on in vanilla that generally makes Molten Core irrelevant, gear wise. Putting it out before the majority of players even reach 60 screws up the progression of content.
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This is ridiculous, it doesn’t “generally make molten core gear irrelevant”, the best guilds in the world will still be running molten core every single week for classic’s entirety. Its not like it came out when the majority of people were level 60 in actual vanilla either
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Ah I see now. Well I’ve only made it to level 22 back in 04’. I ever get to 60 I’m sure I’ll enjoy Molten Core.
No it doesnt. The gear there is not as good as MC gear. There is gear there for certain spots and certain specs that have no gear in MC (look at MCs loot table, there’s basicalaly like 1 or 2 items per slot that aren’t set items, and some slots, no items). But it is not better. Its lower iLevel, doesn’t have resists, has way less stam (which is required to soak a lot of the raid wide damage in BWL), and almost none of it has more spellpower or healing power than MC gear (with some exceptions in leather healing gear, which was pretty sparse on the ground in MC).
It was out before a lot of players reached 60 in Vanilla, so im not sure what you’re drabbling on about.
And besides that…
All of the OTHER end-game dungeons (BRD, BRS, Scholo, Strat) are ALREADY dropping their upgraded loot (with non-Relic loot tables, however)… which did more to “invalidate” MC gear than DM did by a long shot.
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By later on, you mean 4 months into the game, when almost no one was even in mc yet
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DM circumvents gear in earlier dungeons! its lame and should be delayed…
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Exactly!!!
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no it doesnt, since those dungeons are dropping their post-loot-upgrade-pass loot already.
You think ANYTHING in DM is better for DPS casters than the (upgraded) Crimson Felt Hat from Strat?
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Dire maul was added in patch 1.3 to wow. 4 months after the game went live, before mc was even cleared, and most people werent 60 yet.
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For real. Sulfuras doesn’t drop in Tribute.
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MC gear > DM gear. There MIGHT be one item that is better than its MC equivalent. MC also isnt irrelevant. I am sure you have never heard of this item in the game called Thunderfury, Blessed blade of the windseeker. I know, its not a meme or anything so a lot of people dont know about it.
The mass majority of players 4 months in WERE NOT 60. DM was added 4 months into the game. most people struggled to hit 60 in the first 6 months. Many didnt hit 60 until close to AQ release. Hell i know a person who played a few months after launch that barely hit 60 in time for TBC.
Are there a lot of 60s now?? Yes. There are addons that help show you questing paths and “hidden quests” that a lot of people didnt know existed. There are people that have played this version of the game for the last 10+ years. Experience is key here.
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It has a handful of good pieces, it by no means invalidates every single drop or even the majority or even a good amount of MC drops.
The real reason people are freaking out about Dire Maul is that Blizzard did something unexpected that a lot of people don’t really understand. So the forums are ablaze. Also there’s this myth, like someone above posted, that DM gear makes you invulnerable and invalidates all content in classic.
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They’re more comparable than that. You can go into BWL in pre-raid BiS blues, a lot of which come from Dire Maul. I did it routinely on a pserver.
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• Improved Gear that makes other 60 dungeons less relevant and makes MC much easier for healers in particular. Also bis recipes like Hide of the Wild
• World Buffs
• Head/Leg Enchants
• Class Trinkets / Epic Tank Sword
• Level 55 mage water
• Class epic mounts for warlock/paladin
• 2 guaranteed Rich Thorium Veins in DM east
Though honestly, the damage is already done in making Molten Core too easy with 16 debuff slots and all the buffed dungeon gear and BoE +heal or +spell damage gear that wasn’t supposed to be out till way later, so Dire Maul won’t be as impactful as it otherwise would.
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Because that is what they do…Welcome to the forums.
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people thought DM will release in few years so they can keep trolling with VC and DM in world chat. But now deadmines will become VC and they cant troll anymore ^^
Here is the complete list of items in my BiS list that changed with the addition of Dire Maul:
Cloak of Warding
Here is the complete list of items in my pre-raid BiS list that changed with the addition of Dire Maul:
Cloak of Warding
Evil Eye Pendant
Reality:
Two items.
Community response:
Classic is ruined! All other dungeons are worthless trash not worth running! MC is invalidated! People will get destroyed in PvP!
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You do realize that Dire Maul was out for over a month before the first guild in the world killed Rag, right?
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