Current changes just made it so much less useful for hunters, at least make it Roar of Sacrifics, and still no changes for the Ret essence. Man… missing the mark so hard.
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They’re making them useless in PvE because of all the raider screeching that they might have to step in PvP content. The changes they’re making have literally nothing to do with PvP.
Hunter’s Survival Tactics could be useful against bosses with strong magical debuffs or for absorbing big hits with the 99% damage reduction, so they changed the ability to something that’s actually harmful in PvE situations.
Feral/Boomkin were actually insane for PvE, to the point it would be mandatory for the raid, so removed. Thorns might be even stronger than the previous buffs for M+, so it’ll probably get changed again. Casting Thorns on the tank would be nuts damage.
Enh Shaman could have accidentally pulled monsters in M+, so removed.
Smoke Bomb could be seen as mandatory for M+ comps, so removed.
Holy Priest’s and Mage’s were all great boosts + QoL improvements in PvE, so removed. Wouldn’t want to get something actually useful now, would we?
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The spec I feel the worst about is affliction. Given a talent that makes your UA actually do LESS damage. LOL
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I’m overall ok with the changes. Mainly rouge’s and mages. I do hope for the next xpac they focus on re-adding to classes instead of pruning. Something they seem to be trying to remedy with this essence.
Where do I go to be up to date on these changes?
Talk about getting kicked while you’re down.
Jesus Christ these people are so worried about dragon slaying at the expense of PvP that they’re going to end up making the Essence completely useless
Bad design is bad just remove it if you don’t have the balls to implement something worthwhile.
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I hear ya there, and I was actually hoping to use the clearcasting arcane missile talent in PvE - well, just transmog runs.
Not sure if intentional, but the wording on temporal shield states “until cancelled” which makes me happy. Mean, we may be able to player cancel instead of letting it lapse in time or get purged.
How about they just do what they should have done from the start and disable the PvE essences in PvP, give us a free 4th honor talent in 8.2, and then correctly balance damage in PvP by reinstating templates. They keep trying to make PvP and PvE work together and they simply don’t anymore. Trying to force it has already ruined gearing in PvP. Enough is enough. The foot doesn’t fit the ruby slipper. Time to move on.
BTW please note they actually went through and revised these but left Ret with Unbound Freedom. That means that talent was looked at multiple times and deemed to be a good choice every time. Let that sink in.
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We get maneuverability now
https://www.wowhead.com/news=291980/conflict-and-strife-essence-pvp-talent-updates-for-8-2-ptr-build-30613
One of the other essences will probably be better so we get nothing.
Bad design is bad.
can’t even complain.
Meh, I feel like another essence might be better. AKA blood soaked, and the cd proccing one. Maybe against some match ups it would be nice.
It will probably be better to use one of those essences and drop a PvP talent for maneuverability when needed like what we do now.
And monks make it through the first round of the conflict and strife ban hammer. Leave monks alone blizz. Plz. Trust.
They say it’s for PvP-ers but what they keep avoiding is that the PvE essences are infinitely better for almost every spec regardless of PvP or PvE lol.
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At the moment I can’t imagine anyone (in PvE or PvP) using the PvP essence over a PvE one.
Most specs have 2-3 core PvP talents that they absolutely must have. There are some specs that have nice 4th options, but nothing mandatory. And certainly nothing that compares to the power of the PvE essences listed here: https://www.wowhead.com/news=291243/patch-8-2-rise-of-azshara-all-heart-of-azeroth-essence-abilities-and-sources
How will anything come close to competing with Blood of the Enemy? 35% crit damage is insane, and it’s so much stronger with certain classes. It’s a straight 35% damage buff for Fire Mage during Combustion.
Yeah. I’m not sold on using this one yet. Maybe if you can change essences in arena waiting room. I just mean I’m not gonna complain about free maneuverability.
When we think Blizz hit the bottom, somebody show up with a shovel and start to dig deeper…
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