Concern about the future of WoW with Diablo Immortal

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Do you go the movies in a month? If so, how much do you pay for that? Do you a coffee regularly? How about that?

I spend approx. Aus $20 a week on coffee (what can I say, Im a dedicated capuccino drinker). So thats what…$80 a month? Compared to that, my WoW sub and how much fun I get from it, is tiny.

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that is a lot of coffee…

tbh i don’t find myself playing that much WoW as i used to, so the F2P thing works for me. the elder scrolls online is a good model actually. F2P with optional subs, or subs with optional F2P. however you want to look at it.

all imnsho

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Ehh, not in the way that SWtOR does.

SWtOR basically does this thing where you can play for free, and there are common sense restrictions to limit bots (for example currency restrictions, which I am fine with), but they go beyond that. For example:

  • They limit the number of Ship Battles, Warzones (PVP Matches) and Flashpoints (Dungeons) to three per week unless you buy a ‘pass’ which gives you unlimited access for that week.
  • They limit the race options you have access to.
  • They reduce your experience gain after level 20, forcing you to use XP boosters to maintain the experience rate you were getting pre-20.
  • They outright prevent you from accepting certain quest rewards unless you buy a ‘license’ to access that type of reward.

All of these additional restrictions are removed the moment you subscribe to the game, which they claim is ‘optional’.

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Not really, its my daily treat at my local cafe. I dont have a lot of money to spend on myself so I dont begrude me a decent daily cuppa.

Thing is, for me WoW is pretty well f2p. I haven’t paid my sub via my own cash for many months, its done via gold. And I already have enough on my bnet balance to pay for Dragonflight. Making gold in WoW is extremely easy, its great that Blizzard gave those of us on lesser incomes the option to be helped out by those who have a bit more cash to splash.

Sure ESO has a ftp option but it is extremely limited. No expansions, very limited bank and bag space, a number of other QoL limits. You can’t even access some classes and professions without payment. I doubt WoW players would enjoy that style of the game.

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never did play SWtOR, but dabbles in ESO once in a while. i don’t think there’s an exp limit, but you can pay to access some end game content or pay the sub for everything.

i probably will buy a 6 month sub when dragonflight comes out, but when the inevitable content drought comes, i’d rather have wow be F2P and be able to play my max level mains in limited fashion, then not being able to at all

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Yeah, ESO does a good F2P model, with some common sense restrictions, but otherwise nothing too gamebreaking. I think the only thing that ESO does wrong is putting the crafting resource bag behind a subscription, because that means F2P players have bags full of materials which can really suck given how many there are.

Guild Wars 2 and FFXIV also do reasonable F2P restrictions. Even WoW’s F2P option is reasonable as far as I’m concerned.

SWtOR sadly just takes it a bit too far beyond what is reasonable. Their limits on content access alone and the way they sell you the solution to the problem they created is horrible.

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yeah i don’t game the economy… never had the patience for it

also i was wrong about ESO being f2p, its more like buy once to play with subs getting more extras

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WOW has been p2w since vanilla whats your concern?

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Every since inception, people have stated literally anything was to increase token sales, even if they were opposites.

“Blizzard flooded gold in WoW from the WoD table system so more people buy tokens”

“Blizzard lowered gold earning cause they want more people to buy tokens”

Paid carries have been a thing since looooong before the token system existed.

Can you give me some specifics. What changes have they implemented over the past few years which increased token sales because of paid carries?