On the one hand, it’s great that Blizzard’s programmers have come so far that they can actually make an effective botting program.
On the other hand, I NEVER want to see these things on my team EVER. This is NOT the solution to low pvp numbers. You cannot put these things on a team in order to supplement the lack of one faction’s pvp participation.
I realize this hasn’t been explicitly stated as a goal anywhere, but I cannot help feeling that this brawl is a beta test for Blizzard’s bots.
Unlike games like MOBAs, having bodies doing things in almost every situation in WoW battlegrounds is a good thing.
I’m not saying we should start seeing these things replace formations of full groups, but if a player leaves a battleground, getting one of these to occupy the space until a human joins is a pretty solid idea. It doesn’t matter how bad they are or how much they die, they’re offering pressure and a distraction.
But yeah, if they start using bots as a way to just form groups, then I’m out.
This is exactly what it is. They take so much from there dead game hots and implemente it in WoW…bots being one and believe me they will be coming a lot more and soon. This is bad
Absolutely BAD idea… look at the forum history of HotS and there JOKE ai boys. You do not want them trust me. They sound mildly ok now but believe me they are not
In the end if adding AI is to help with numbers…agreed…I do not want any AI in my PLAYER vs PLAYER settings.
For the love of Qs…just mix factions.
Mixing faction will also help in solving the “one faction is overpowered or has overpowered players”.
“Horde / Alli always win”
If factions were mixed…“you” / “your team” would just win or lose…not horde or alli.
can someone explain the mentality? if a bot is filling a role on a team and doing it well, what does it matter?
i realize you aren’t killing a player, but if the kill is all you care about then arena is probably a better place to play. I had one of the paladin’s insta bubble my maledict last night, so it’s not like they can’t be tuned up in skill. in a bg i don’t see the difference between killing a high skill AI and killing a player when the goal is to capture the node.
I think that with a few small tweaks (like not instantly reapplying DOTs if dispelled, showing up in BG enemies, etc) and giving the AI opponents names chosen from the random name generator with a random server attached most wouldn’t be able to spot them.
Because this is a MMO.
Next will be bots running in dungeons or raids or hanging around cities .
It’s fine , just that the game won’t be a MMO anyone .
Cause I am not paying 15 bucks a month for an MMO (massive multiPLAYER online) so I can play VS bots.
as example…go buy the latest StarWars Battlefront.
Why hop into online servers full of other players when you can just play AI skrimish none stop. 
if your pet kills someone, was that pvp or pve for your opponent?
No matter how bad a bot may be it can’t be worse than an empty slot.
Yeah this “PvP” is one of the worst abominations I have seen in this game. It literally takes everything about PvP and flushes it down the toilet.
This is the perfect example of removing the HEART of PvP.
This would make me quite unhappy. It might not matter to those who find their bread and butter in PvP alone, but it does to me. The fact that merc mode exists is bad enough (as necessary as it may be). I don’t want to see the needle swing even further in that direction.
so a massive and much needed quality of life change for a game mode you don’t play that much should not be done because it bothers you personally? i mean, should we balance the mythic world first races or M+ around the will of casual bgers? makes no sense to listen to someone with zero stake in that area of them game.
you don’t want bots to fill holes, and you don’t want factions mixed, you don’t want merc mode. what do you want?
I never said anything against bots. Please read my posts, it’s the opposite. I’m generally supportive of them. Casual PvPers are individuals and we don’t all share the same opinions.
Even though most would consider me a “casual” battlegrounder, it’s probably the part of the game I’ve most frequently and consistently participated in for the past 14 years. I don’t do rated often, but I queue into quite a few random BGs every week across a couple of 120s. There’s other stuff I do too (I don’t ignore other forms of content) but enough of my enjoyment is derived from random BGs that I think I have the right to voice my thoughts on how they should/shouldn’t change.
If anything, shouldn’t casual PvPers have at least an equal share of sway in random BGs? Rated is indisputably solely the territory of hardcore PVPers. Why should they get exclusive control over random BGs too?
sorry, my impression based on what you wrote is that you would rather be down a person than fill that spot with an AI, making you fairly botphobic.
I have no idea what your alts are, so i can only go by that mage, which has fewer AVs done than I have done this season so far. if you run bgs all the time then sure, you have a stake in how they operate. so then i have to ask why you want the current broken system to remain? queue times for 60% of the community are ridiculous, the current offering to combat this (mercing) is not an attractive option to most of the community for various reasons, and it draws a lot of criticism. so why not entertain possible solutions? as has been discussed in several threads already mixed teams would have tons of benefits with no practical drawbacks. the only thing that stands in the way is the idea that factions must be segregated, why stay stuck on that idea?
where did you get that impression?
I think that the problem would be better fixed by a combo addressing the issues that drove competitive players to reroll Horde in the first place alongside incentive that’s so strong it’s practically, “an offer you can’t refuse” for getting some Horde to transfer back.
I dunno. It rubbed me the wrong way when arenas pitted same factions against each other in PvP back in TBC, but it felt more passable because it was small form and not “real” PvP. It feels super wrong for BGs.
Sorry, a lot of players post with the idea that their views on the game overrule everybody else’s because they’re hardcore players which automatically makes their thoughts more important somehow. I thought that was the angle you were going for.
What are the differences between the Merc option and the mixed pool option that makes the latter more attractive?
This is the only Alliance can even win honestly. I have a new 120 DH where there the final score was 1500-1100/1000. To even get that close against Bots is pathetic. Players were still leaving nodes defenseless and fighting on the roads doing nothing.
Alliance win Bgs just fine. Maybe for you it’s all you can win but not alliance as a whole.