Common issue I've been seeing all BFA

Common issue I’ve been seeing all BFA…

Join a mythic raiding guild

Guild is either terribly toxic or clique

Officers run together and talk together

But you feel ignored and uninvited You help them get AOTC, they stop raiding

Jump from guild to guild looking for a place to belong

Keep finding the same thing.

Classic come along, problem gets worse.

I’ve run into this issue in 5 guilds now in BFA

I’m really just depressed about it now

I login, see a lot of people on including officers, I say hi, spark up some conversation, no one says a thing… ten minutes go by.

Officer logs in, everyone is suddenly awake and talking to them.

I just don’t get it, I’m a nice helpful person, but I just can never find a guild to fit in.

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Time to become a guildmaster, friend. That’s the only way out of this.

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Make a mythic guild, Friends edition. That’s what I did on my DH and it is a slightly laid back slightly serious guild and tis fun.

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I should have just started my own guild years ago, but now is definitely not the time to attempt that.

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My guild is private. No one here but me.

Account-wide bank.

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Successful Guild Masters should get free accounts. That means that they are successful though, not scavengers. It is too much work otherwise.

After my current guild died I just kind’ve started avoiding guilds.

I’m a nice guy, but no one wants to socialize with me anyway.

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hey! came up with an idea for an account wide bank.

Tailors should be able to make special bags that you can get per toon to access a guild like bank that shares among all your toons. They would be on the right hand side of the personal bank.

Also, they should charge to have a guild bank and bring back guilds earning based on members contributions. That way personal guilds would go away and more people would join social guilds.

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I just think BFA is a bit dead at the moment due to EP being not that enticing for a lot of people, Classic, plateau’d ilevels and gear progression, etc…

This isn’t a BfA problem, besides the Classic monkeywrench. I spent Legion doing exactly what you’ve described, over and over, including multiple server and faction transfers.

Maybe it’s a “me” issue. Maybe I’m not suited to being in a guild. I’ve gotten out of the MUST RAID NAO mindset and I’m not getting back into that scene, but it would be nice to find a guild with cool people to do stuff with.

Alas.

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How did you pull that off? Make someone you trust an officer long enough to invite in all your alts?

And this is why I only do LFR, or LFD now… I don’t expect any but loot now and I love being in a guild of myself and meeting all kinds of different people each week … No BS, No problems!

It’s not easy now and it really never has been in spit of high populations at times as well.

Its like any social group anywhere else, it takes a certain effort to find the right one and some more effort to fit in. Cliques always exist, if they are bullies or what ever thats bad but often a clique is just friends with some history and when you’re new you dont share the history so you feel out of place until you get to that point.

Lots of bad guilds, lots of average ones and lots of good ones too but the ocean is big and it can be a lot of looking in between finding them.

Its so easy to see and remember the bad examples that we can take almost any activity and show it to be full of terrible people. We kind of expect and take for granted when people are kind and nice so much that we give those moments no weight compared to the bad moments.

Its exceedingly rare to find people who have been members in a guild for years. I think less than a year is pretty standard unless you find a really well organized guild. Which most non-mythic or mythic teams that only clear 3-4 bosses a tier are not.

ya cliques aren’t really the problem, they’re natural, friends with history, I’m just in a weird place as is the game since so many quit after aotc and classic… it’s like that awkward hair phase…

this problem started back in classic and with original raiding guilds from all that I researched only gotten worse to the point blizzard noticed almost no one raided and they needed a reason to even make raids and make it so more people raid so they added lfr which pissed off the same people who alienated the people in the first place. in short those people doomed wow from the start

Nothing to do with mythics, friend.

Happens to me, even with RP guilds.

Just social cliques. Used to not be a huge issue, but has become more obvious recently.

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Same. I have 2 actually, 1 for BFA only and one for all the previous expansions that my banker is guild master of. Gotta be organized or I go crazy.

You’ve helped Mythic raiding guilds get AOTC?

You’re a bit late for a Sunday thread.

Some people are easily confused I see.

They were finishing up Heroic, but already started Mythic as most do and have done for a few expansions… and they had plans to keep going in Mythic, I helped them get AOTC then they quit.

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Thats what i did…

My hunter leads it…sadly my server groups not so active so recruitings a pill.

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