Command table

Hey blizzard, not trolling here. Perhaps my crew and myself are the only ones that are too stupid to figure out the command table. But, I don’t know if you realize this but the command table is literally the worst it’s ever been. We mean absolutely no disrespect from this. So please take this as our opinion and not as some whiny kids saying “give us things for free”

Everyone I talk to in my circle which have deep college educations and a handful of the guild doesn’t really know what’s going on with the command table in the slightest. Yes there was a mini tutorial which IMO told us absolutely nothing. We plug random dudes in 99% of the time and we hope for the best. If you are 2/4 of the covenants you are SOL to even do anything useful with this feature. Thus the MASSIVE hotfix that came out yesterday.

I hear there is a newly released addon that takes all the guesswork out of the equation for you. Great. It would be terrific if this feature we less clunky mode obvious what we need to work around and less “just hope for the best” or get another addon to make things work in the game.

All the buffs to venthyr and Kyrian are proof that this was just thrown together in a single day with no thought process in it. At least in the past the previous iterations of this command table feature were easier to manage, read, understand what you need to counter or do. This, in our opinions are too much of a pain to deal with. Free rewards or not.

By trial and error my NF would just use one hero and 5 trappers and win vs using healers and positioning certain guys on the front line vs the back line. Now with the nerf I have lost all interest in the table period since my success doing that has dropped to like 40% if that.

The best part is I accidentally completed “advance the command table difficulty further” a few times not realizing that would screw me over. Now I have all 37 level quests when a majority of my followers were 27 a week and a half ago. I’ve been hoping to try to complete enough super high level missions to get my guys. up there so they can not be 10 levels + behind the current offered quests. Worst mistake ever. But was this obvious? Hell no. I just plugged people into a quest 13 levels bigger and actually beat it, screwing myself along the way cause now to catch up it’s a huge uphill battle.

Or like I said perhaps me and my crew/ guild are too small brain for this. If all of us are having issue really grasping it, perhaps there is more to be desired here. Perhaps we aren’t the only ones here thinking this is more vague and “a waste of anima” than it needs to be.

PS: the anima drought makes sense cause that’s the base problem from shadowlands and all lore wise but FFS is it a chore to ever have enough anima for upgrading anything beyond level two in your sanctuary. I have zero desire to do dailies with wq that are the most tedious and unnecessarily long than they have ever been. BFA wq at least didn’t try to force me to take approximately 9 ish min on every quest to keep the metrics high. They had one kill quests mixed with some annoying ones but generally speaking took 3-4 min per vs the 9 ish min in SL.

We shouldn’t have to study an in depth tutorial for a small feature like this.

Someone said it best in the wowhead comments. “We have noticed that Nightfae were the only covenant able to complete soul ash missions on the table, we nerfed them to be more in line with the others”

Perfect summary of the truth. GG

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Whenever I did the command table, I read the little blip of text indicating where the enemy will be striking and when I read ‘will attack furthest away’ I took it literally and through they would be attacking one of my companions in the back row, turns out this isn’t true, they attack the front row, go figure.

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You are being overdramatic. It’s a pretty simple concept. If you paid attention and actually look at champions and troops it’s very simple. The ONLY part you could legitimately say wasn’t explained was that you could use multiple of the same troop.

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Whats difficult about it ? I don’t even use addons and have not lost a mission since the year started .

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I haven’t lost a single mission (but I’m Ardenweald and apparently ours are easier for some reason); however, I have absolutely no idea why I have won a single mission. I cannot figure out how it works, nobody I know (who is even still playing at this point) understands how it works, even YouTube personalities who normally know all the ins and outs of this game cannot understand how this works. Even the addon doesn’t understand how it works because it admits it doesn’t have a 100% success rate.

  1. If literally nobody can figure out how the mechanic works, either you didn’t explain it or it’s not a good mechanic. Or if it’s meant to be random, just dispense with the followers and have us roll dice instead.

  2. The fact that some covenants need an addon to do this is pathetic. Addons are not meant to fix game-breaking issues, they’re meant to be little extras.

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I started using Covenant Mission Helper, after someone on the forums here mentioned it. At least when I use the addon’s “Optimize” feature, where it re-positions the troops, I started understanding some of the logic behind positioning them a certain way. The whole thing is just too confusing and time-consuming.

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Hello.

I am Daruce.

I am a command table ninja-pirate-Destro-Warlock tactical genius. If I am not the first one to level my main team to level 60, I will be right there.

Without blatantly cheating I am having a grand old time, and you all could too with some simple observation and a bit of free time to dedicate to the command table.

I have all the hints in my previous posts. Good luck to you all.

:pancakes:

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Is the command table even worth the anima to unlock it? I did it on earlier characters but meh.

the good thing is, it is a personal choice for the most part.

it has rewards for pets, mounts, random gear now and then, and mats but in the grand scheme of things - it’s a toss up and not a necessity.

i enjoy it. i spent 16k anima on it and have no regrets.

sending my heroes on quests and watching them DING entertains me. :slight_smile:

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oh really i didn’t even really know that im Venthyr and i just thought my friend hadn’t lost yet cuz he got better champs earlier…didn’t know there was difficulty with each one was different…lol

You are making me concerned of what are taught in schools now. There are many flaws in the mission table, but I had no trouble figuring out the basics without the help of any external sources or addon.

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It’s obvious Blizz made the new Mission Table incredibly obtuse to try and prevent an add-on from automating it like we’ve seen in the past.

Like much of this x-pac it feels like development stopped about half way through.

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Addons really helped understand the system, on top of making it easier to operate. Remember, even if you lose the mission, your guys still get experience.

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I need more heroes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_HjMIjzyMU

Many of my table missions are on level 30 while more than half of my followers are above level 28.

There is usually one outlier mission 5 levels above my followers in a week but it takes a week to expire. Last week, I was still able to beat the outlier mission becoz I leveled up my followers before the mission expired. This week, the outlier mission is level 36 when my 5 followers were level 30. I leveled up my 5 followers for the past 6 days… now only level 33s becoz of my limited play time this week. I dont feel bad not doing the outlier mission this week as I have beaten it last week. Let’s see next week.

I miss the WoD / Legion / BFA style of table. It was so much easier to do (especially on the app while I was at break at work)

I like how the Night Fae have one marked as a healer (Yiralya?), but it’s not a healer? For the longest time I assumed I was sending my troops out w/a healer, but that was not the case…

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Same. Kyrian has Sika - marked with a red + but in truth casts buffs not heals.

I think they use the red plus to signal caster but you know to us red + means healing.

They should have used a moon symbol or sparkles…

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Holy Bananas! I had no idea Hala was waiting for me in Torghast!

I went tonight to do my weekly soul ash run and rescued her. She’s of course level 1 melee and my foot soldiers fell from 39 to…38!

SWEET NUGGETS! :smiley:

dance

Give me a week to put her through the Daruce school of grinding out levels and I’ll see if I can get her to 25+.

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Look at your abilities. Look at the enemy abilities. Position your champions and troops accordingly. It shows you exactly where you can strike.

Using the new command table requires half a brain, which means most of the modern playerbase is screwed.

Although I will be fair and say venthyr/kyrian are severely weak.

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