Don’t try to put ret, hunter or boomie before shaman.
No matter how geared you are. You are not going to kill a R shaman in 1v1 and you are not going to win in a 2 vs 2, or 3 v 3 when the oppsite team has a resto shaman.
Please Blizz, we need big nerf to resto shaman. Give some love to healer pally, priest and mage. Please nerf the tank runes for resto shaman.
Healers are not supposed to be an easy kill…. And it will take him a month to kill you.
Also they have to hard cast. Interrupt em…
Cold-take: support characters are supposed to be generally stronger than zug characters because the pay-off comes from the things we want to encourage in mmo PvP (cooperation against a group of enemy players).
If anti-social dps zugs are not complaining about healers, healers are probably not strong enough. Dps zugs whining about healers is a prerequisite of PvP being good, although it doesn’t mean it is good.
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How many dots damage can you take from a Rshaman? Don’t mix shaman with other healers.
Are they also supposed to be able to sit there bombing heals and never go oom as well. The entire skill basis for a healer is positioning and mana management and neither of those matter for a r sham.
They literally cannot go oom. Maybe if you can get 3 priests with no one attacking them to sit there and spam mana drain over and over, the shaman might go oom. And they have wolf sprint and decoy totem to easily re position if needed. They should not be nearly as tanky as they are.
Every other healer can go oom… But shamans? nah they need their mana.
Then why are people only complaining about r shams? Every other healer can go oom…
What they need to do is nerf the mana regen on sham rage and add the majority of the mana regen to a deep enh talent that will buff sham rage. I get that screws over ele somewhat but idk sham rage was always and enh ability and its just busted on casters.
i dont usually rank healers in pvp ranks other than an aside after the other ranks but i can rank the healers by themselves.
i will say resto druid is probably top then resto shaman then holy pal then priest then mage.
if you havent faced a resto druid, good luck. they also never run out of mana and most of their healing is instant and they have innervate .
They can? Sounds like they need warmth of forgiveness haha.
you are the first person to mention that in this thread, it is a valid point. Having done priest and rsham, mana is amazing on sham, awful on priest.
is this gnomish, can we get a translate?
Pvping on both ally and horde, a good rDruid is the hardest to deal with. I can lock an sham down pretty well, long casts or he will go oom using lesser (despite what you think)… Priest can be Wiley with pom,hot,binding,serendipity.
If the rsham is running way of earth, he has to get into the fray to heal because of range reduction and the pushback on casts will be awful.
I don’t play a shaman, but they seem easy to lock down (not kill, just make them ineffective) due to not having hots/instants. Even if you can’t kill them, they can’t get heals out either. Even just having your team put their pets on them would slow them down.
It’s a good thing that healers have actual impact now. In another thread someone is complaining about resto druids. Just gotta adjust back from the clown show PvP has been the past while.
like i said. a healer should be able to heal vs 1 dps when healing another target.
vs 2 though they should stuggle.
vs just the healer themself though i would say with spell pushback being a thing they should have problems vs a dps going full blast on them.
really though i suggest throwing out some viper stings cause they have to spend mana to dispel it and if it even ticks for 1 tick you will be mana positive vs them. poison cleansing totem is mana too.
also since when does hunter have mana issues?
The problem could be solved if the tank rune was attached to Stormstrike. That is, if you do not have stormstrike in your talents - your tank rune does not work. This would remove these cringe undying shaman builds, but would allow you to play a full tank without huge magic damage from ele talents.